Neifel giants suck?

[Keir Maxwell]

Originally posted by Jasper:
It's cheaper to get 2 maxed blessings with an immobile pretender, but is it really worth it?

Generally not I guess - although the research value can be important and sometimes its the only pretender you can afford to get the effects you want to make the race design work. My best efforts with Mictlan so far come from using the Fountain of Blood with blood5, water9. The added bonus here is that I intend lowering the tax rate in time and doing a little blood hunting at home. Still far from getting the details sorted but I'm hoping the Fountain of Blood is still a viable option.

Cheers

Keir

[Jasper]

I haven't tried it yet, but the Smoking Mirror looks interesting to me for Mictlan. Perhaps 4 in Fire, Death, Blood, and Water.

+2 Attack, Defense, Strength, and Fear seems decent on their quite cheap sacred troops. I espeically like the Eagle warriors.

Their sacred troops are so cheap however that I'm not sure you can get much out of concentrating on them.

[Keir Maxwell]

Originally posted by Jasper:
I haven't tried it yet, but the Smoking Mirror looks interesting to me for Mictlan. Perhaps 4 in Fire, Death, Blood, and Water.

+2 Attack, Defense, Strength, and Fear seems decent on their quite cheap sacred troops. I espeically like the Eagle warriors.

Their sacred troops are so cheap however that I'm not sure you can get much out of concentrating on them.

I tried Smoking Mirror first up without good results.

The decisive question for me with Mictlan is what do you use as the basis for your army? The slingers are, in my experiance, more danger to your own troops than the enemy and most of the infantry is simply not up to the job. The only thing I have found that has real shown promise early is the Warriors of the Sun who work well with the extra +2 strength, quickness and +4 def from the Fountain of Blood (blood5 water9). However I have along way to go before I'm comfortable with playing Mictlan.

The Eagle Warriors look very cute and might work well later but as yet I haven't got them to work early.

cheers

Keir

[Nerfix]

It's all about Warriors with javelins.

Mictian is very cool and very frustrating. Especially the blood sacrifice need. And the Mercenary "Costs Double for you" situations.

Their base units (the standard bearer, warriors with slings and javs) are pitifully weak and get mowed down easily.

As a game progresses it gets harder and harder to put your sacred troops up to the front line of battle since they are capital only.

That's the only deal I have found with fighting MP with Mic.

[Keir Maxwell]

Originally posted by Zen:
Mictian is very cool and very frustrating.
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As a game progresses it gets harder and harder to put your sacred troops up to the front line of battle since they are capital only.

I have always wanted to be able to use Spine Devils and other low level blood summons effectively and this is what I'm trying to do with Mictlan. Trouble I'm finding is the expense of the 2 blood mages undermines their value as Spine Devil summoners.

The only thing I'm researching early is construction for blood raising magc items (allows me to summon with blood1 priests) and sanguine dousing rods. Hopefully, if I can get the start right, I'll be able to get enough Spine devils to form the nucleus of an anti-player army.

Cheers

Keir