"War of the Ring" thread

[Endoperez]

How much does it cost to empower someone from Death-8 to, say, Death-10? Or D-11? If it is insane amounts of death gems, it is almost impossible.

Random thoughts:
What effects would The Ring give to its wielder? Horror Marked is not very good, although that could simulate the attacks of RingWraiths quite well... They wouldn't be the same ones, though.
Those weapons should be cause disease, BTW, not decay. And Rivendell should have some healers.

One big problem is the fact that Ring can be destroyed - after that it could be forged again, and that is not what we want. One solution would be to make it need awesome amounts of Death magic, 10 or 12 or something. Then someone, maybe one of the Elves, would have that much magic and a forge-bonus of 100. No-one in Ermor would be able to forge it without empowering a lot.

If all Death spells were unaccesiible by research, good nations could find Death sites and would convert "the evil power" to do good under their will. Mordor would start with the spells they would be able to use... Only Sauron should be able to cast their better spells.

Some ideas my tired mind came up with. Ignore them if you don't like them, but I would like to get some comments.

[Taqwus]

Empowerment cost is 50 gems/slaves to get level 1, 30 + (15 * (current_level-1)) thereafter.
Hence, to empower from level 8 to level 9 costs 30 + 7*15 = 135, then it's 150 for level 10, and 165 for level 11.

With Death magic, you should note that boosters exist for every slot except feet.
The most powerful death weapon is the 40-gem 1-hd unique Sceptre for +3 death; unique and non-unique 2-hd staves provide 1. A Skull Cap boosts by 1 for 20 gems. A Robe of the Archmage boosts all paths incl death by 1 for something like 80 blood slaves and a horror mark. Misc items that boost include rings of sorcery and wizardry (+1 each), and the Big Black Book of Secrets (Death and Blood Magic for Dummies, +1 each).

[Gateway103]

Yeah, but Sauron is an eye, I don't see him haveing any slot except maybe a misc. slot to hold the Ring

[edit: I was mistaken about the empowerment cost]

-Gateway103

[ April 25, 2004, 19:30: Message edited by: Gateway103 ]

[limbo]

hello there!
this is something i`ve been waiting for. a Lotr-mod.
here is a link to civ3 forum, a thread i have been following for nearly a year (or 2). it`s a lotr mod for civ3. i believe that you will find lots of usefull information of units and nations from there. believe me when i tell you, that those guys have done lots of research.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=96409

i hope the link works.
btw, can you script item so that it would be lost in the province where carrier were slain? and then some unfortunate gobyer would find it again? like the time that isildur (was it isildur?) fell i the river, and years after smeagul found the ring.

-limbo

edit: i took a second look to dates.. is this mod still active?

[Truper]

The mod never was active, to my knowledge. Keir disappeared from these Boards many months ago, and without completing the mod.

There is always a chance that a magic item will be found by a commander on the victorious side after a battle, but you cannot ensure that it will be found.

Yes, it was Isildur that lost the Ring.

[PvK]

Gateway103 said:
Yeah, but Sauron is an eye, I don't see him haveing any slot except maybe a misc. slot to hold the Ring <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
...

It's not that Sauron _is_ an eye, it's just very powerful magically and the spell effect was mostly what was shown in the film, and is his symbol. See for example:



Also if you want to see it in the recent film series, watch the very first battle scene in the first film. The giant guy wiping out dozens of good guys with every sweep of his sword would be Sauron...

PvK

[deccan]

But it in the Third Age, I think Sauron is more or less physically "diffused", sort of like an ethereal, malignant presence than a physical combat monster.

[Vicious Love]

Gollum mentions Sauron torturing him with nine fingers. Think there might be mention of Sauron having corporeal form around that time elsewhere. Shall sniff about.

[Vicious Love]

Ding! Gandalf sez: "Some here will remember that many years ago I myself dared to pass the doors of the Necromancer in Dol Guldur, and secretly explored his ways, and found thus that our fears were true: he was none other than Sauron, our Enemy of old, at length taking shape and power again."

Further, Tolkien sez: "It was thus that Sauron appeared in this shape. It is mythologically supposed that when this shape was 'real', that is a physical actuality in the physical world and not a vision transferred from mind to mind, it took some time to build up. It was then destructible like other physical organisms. But that of course did not destroy the spirit, nor dismiss it from the world to which it was bound until the end. After the battle with Gilgalad and Elendil, Sauron took a long while to re-build, longer than he had done after the Downfall of Númenor (I suppose because each building-up used up some of the inherent energy of the spirit, that might be called the 'will' or the effective link between the indestructible mind and being and the realization of its imagination). The impossibility of re-building after the destruction of the Ring, is sufficiently clear 'mythologically' in the present book."

Thanks to some pedantic purist at minastirith.com for digging this latter quote up in my stead.