pretenders cant preach?

[SurvivalistMerc]

Endoperez,

That is a wonderful idea...to have the death of the pretender affect the nation.

Was what you had in mind something like not being able to have bless effects until they pray him/her/it back into existence?

[Endoperez]

No bless effect or lessened bless effect. Maybe while he is close to being back here again the bless effect returns... Less effect from scales? Dominion decreasing? No morale boos from friendly dominion? Priest spells being weaker, maybe needing a better priest than before (Serm. of cour. 4, Fanat. 5 etc.).
I haven't thought it out really, mainly because I was thinking things that could happen *in the battle he died in*. Thanks to you for pointing this 'my good idea' to me, too!

[PhilD]

Originally posted by Treebeard:
Hmmm sacred pretenders would be very interesting to see, even if balance would have to be redone from scratch. I mean, think of a Earth 9/Nature 9 sacred Big Momma - extra reinvigoration, more protection (both from earth and berserk) and a 20% level regeneration!

Wouldn't Shroud of the Battle Saint work for this?
(Construction 4, Astral 1, supposed to give Prot5 and Blessed)

[Psitticine]

I had the thought Last night that, really, given their auto-Dominion spreading, maybe Pretenders can be fairly classified as ALWAYS preaching and thus don't have a seperate command becaues of that?

If that's the case, you'd think Prophets couldn't preach either, since they also automatically spread Dominion.

Another thought I had is that maybe Pretenders are simply too alien, due to their high stature, to be effective preachers. Maybe the logic is that they can't communicate with the masses any more effectively than they do by simply existing and being, well, godlike.

You'd think a Pretender could raise a temple to his/her/itself though. That's one thing that, honestly, I can't make much sense out of, unless it is purely a play-balancing decision that I don't understand.

I think that, in the end, maybe the real reason is that a Pretender would have to have a very high Priest level (maybe one equal to its Dominion Strength?) for it to make sense, and that would give it access to Smite and other abilities that would potentially unbalance things. And, with the system being set up the way it is, that means the Pretender not only can't cast priest spells, but he/she/it can't do anything else priestly as well.

I'd like to see an exception for being able to build temples shoehorned in there, and I can't see how it'd be unbalancing, but I wouldn't know what to do about the logical flaw behind the fact the fonts of divine power can't harness that power themselves into priestly spells.

Hmm, the Parrot rambles this day . . .

[Gandalf Parker]

Originally posted by PhilD:

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Originally posted by Treebeard:
Hmmm sacred pretenders would be very interesting to see, even if balance would have to be redone from scratch. I mean, think of a Earth 9/Nature 9 sacred Big Momma - extra reinvigoration, more protection (both from earth and berserk) and a 20% level regeneration!

Wouldn't Shroud of the Battle Saint work for this?
(Construction 4, Astral 1, supposed to give Prot5 and Blessed)

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For some reason I never thought of that. In all the games I tested max blessings (all 4's and one or two 9's) I never considered what could be done by giving a shroud to the pretender. Hmmmmm whole new line of thought in that. >:-)

[ January 03, 2004, 17:44: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

[Dekent]

I don't think the shroud works on your pretender.....


Although honestally I think that all the pretenders should get their bless affects at all times, it just makes sense ;p

[Treebeard]

The shroud doesn't work with pretenders. A real shame