More Nation Specific Pretenders!

Gandalf Parker · #1 January 29th, 2004, 03:28 PM

Johan K is the father of Code. Kristoffer O is the father of Theme. What Johan K giveth, Kristoffer O taketh away. ("just kidding guys" as I look to see if my CD-keys are still there)

Seriously though, lets not try to remove anything unless it seems really necessary. We cant just make holes in the pretender list. But if you design some theme pretenders then Im sure Kristoffer will at least consider them. In my opinion it works best if you dont try to design them all the way, just point Krisoffer in a direction.

I was thinking of "Green Man" for Man to give him an easy 3-nature which it seems Man should have. Although it might also fit Ulm. Probably done just as a head like Baphomet.
http://www.mikeharding.co.uk/greenman/greenintro.html

[ January 29, 2004, 13:29: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

sachmo · #2 January 29th, 2004, 05:12 PM

More pretenders would be great, but I have yet to even scratch the surface on playing them. Has anyone played with the Earth Mother yet? Am I describing her right?

quantum_mechani · #3 January 29th, 2004, 07:38 PM

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Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:

I was thinking of "Green Man" for Man to give him an easy 3-nature which it seems Man should have. Although it might also fit Ulm. Probably done just as a head like Baphomet.
http://www.mikeharding.co.uk/greenman/greenintro.html

Yes, I hope the devs are considering some of the pretenders from the 'Divine Serpent' thread (incuding mine

).

In a related subject, It seems to me the Mother of Lions should be available to more nations. Both man and Pangea have nature magic/high dominion/possible SC pretenders coming out thier ears. So while it's fine that the Mother of Lions is thematically available to these nations, other nations like Machaka also seem a good fit.

Truper · #4 January 29th, 2004, 07:53 PM

The only problem I have with nation-specific pretenders is that they are all thematic - that is, they do what your nation is already good at. You get a lot more bang for your pretender buck in most instances by taking as non-thematic a pretender as possible...

Wauthan · #5 January 29th, 2004, 07:57 PM

Think part of the "problem" is the wish to tie pretenders to theme in such a way that they are "mythically compatible". Trouble is that few are as knowledgeable about old obscure mythical creatures as the developers of this game. Hence all you see are missing faces in the gallery.

Saber Cherry · #6 January 29th, 2004, 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by Wauthan:
Think part of the "problem" is the wish to tie pretenders to theme in such a way that they are "mythically compatible". Trouble is that few are as knowledgeable about old obscure mythical creatures as the developers of this game. Hence all you see are missing faces in the gallery.

Pythium and Arco have a wide range of possible mythologically compatible gods. Aphrodite, Heracles, Hades, Hermes - none of these should be titan-sized (except maybe Hades), and none are represented by current pretenders. A souped-up Cerberus pretender might be interesting, too, and a Red Bull (Last Unicorn) for Man. Demoralized, feebleminded unicorns would flock to it=) I'd also like to see Tien Chi get a fake dragon (like you see in Chinese new years parades), Atlantis get Jaws (well, not really

, and Mictlan/Machaka get a giant tortise.

Kristoffer O · #7 January 29th, 2004, 11:18 PM

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Originally posted by Saber Cherry:

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Originally posted by Wauthan:
Think part of the "problem" is the wish to tie pretenders to theme in such a way that they are "mythically compatible". Trouble is that few are as knowledgeable about old obscure mythical creatures as the developers of this game. Hence all you see are missing faces in the gallery.

Pythium and Arco have a wide range of possible mythologically compatible gods. Aphrodite, Heracles, Hades, Hermes - none of these should be titan-sized (except maybe Hades), and none are represented by current pretenders. A souped-up Cerberus pretender might be interesting, too, and a Red Bull (Last Unicorn) for Man. Demoralized, feebleminded unicorns would flock to it=) I'd also like to see Tien Chi get a fake dragon (like you see in Chinese new years parades), Atlantis get Jaws (well, not really , and Mictlan/Machaka get a giant tortise.

Gods of most myths are human sized in some myths and giant sized in some. Gods begets offspring with Titans or Jotuns in one myth and with humans in the next. Zeus is the son of Kronos, who is a Titan. Hades and Zeus are brothers. The Aesir often marries Jotun daughters etc.

A human-sized god looks whimpy. Thus only human pretenders are human sized

There is a vast array of possible pretenders. I intend to make some more, but it's a matter of my whims. It is easier to sit down after work and read your Posts than making a new god

. I have lists and notes on paper and in files of perhaps fifty units I would like to make, and if I added pretenders from different myths I would easily reach some hundred new critters. Unfortunately (for you, I'm OK with it) I have other jobs.