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January 29th, 2004, 04:24 PM
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Re: Very short question on Communion Master and the slave matrix
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edit: I was wrong, only mages can equip it, but apparent any mage can even if they have no astral.
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I tried a communion slave/master matrix on my Alchemist pretender (master) and 8 priests (Slaves) and it didnt work. So priests probably dont count for slave purposes. [/QB] Makes sense. The definition of a mage is probably any commander that starts with at least one level of any sort of magic except divine. [/QB] They don't have to start with it, they just have to have it. Empowerment is fine (although a bit pricy for communion slaves!)
The best communion slave, bar none, is Pythium's Theurg Communicant (which *isn't* a mage but gets automatic Communion Slave anyway). Aside from that, any cheap mage with some astral is good, especially if he is also sacred (Lizard shamans; they are available as independents as well as C'tis; also Crystal Amazon Priestesses). Blood can be used in communions, but Sabbath Master *and* Sabbath Slave have a mandatory slave cost (only one, but still, it adds up if all your slaves are using it). So it's better to use the Astral Versions if you can.
Slave matrixes are kind of a steep investment, but if you have to use them, put them on any cheap mage or mage/priest (Arco priestess, Initiate, Inquisitor, Seraph, Dryad, Witch Doctor).
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January 29th, 2004, 07:35 PM
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Re: Very short question on Communion Master and the slave matrix
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Damn. Outside of Pangaia it is hard to find a stealthy mage.
But any mage will work?
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Star Children come to mind -- R'lyeh's astral-1, amphibious, mind-bLasting assassin-mages.
Elludian Moon Mages and the Grey Seers (? The mages from the Grey Tower, anyway) are also stealthy astral-mages, but you need the matching magical sites to get them in quantity.
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January 29th, 2004, 07:45 PM
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Re: Very short question on Communion Master and the slave matrix
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Damn. Outside of Pangaia it is hard to find a stealthy mage.
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Other than those mentioned, SG Ermor has stealthy dusk elders.
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January 29th, 2004, 08:56 PM
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Re: Very short question on Communion Master and the slave matrix
How exactly does the Pythium Theurg Communicant work?
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January 29th, 2004, 09:19 PM
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Re: Very short question on Communion Master and the slave matrix
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How exactly does the Pythium Theurg Communicant work?
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Just like any other communion slave (the numbers required are the same etc.). Think of him as having a slave matrix - he automatically becomes communion slave at the beginning of the battle.
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January 29th, 2004, 11:45 PM
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Re: Very short question on Communion Master and the slave matrix
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How exactly does the Pythium Theurg Communicant work?
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Just like any other communion slave (the numbers required are the same etc.). Think of him as having a slave matrix - he automatically becomes communion slave at the beginning of the battle. So I just need to have a guy cast the communion master spell, or whatever its called?
What kind of benefits does the communion leader draw from one slave? Does it scale linearly with more slaves?
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January 30th, 2004, 12:11 AM
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Re: Very short question on Communion Master and the slave matrix
The benefits of Communion/Sabbath for Masters are:
2 Slaves +1 to all Magic Paths, Including Holy/Unholy
4 Slaves +2 to all Magic Paths, Including Holy/Unholy
8 Slaves +3 to all Magic Paths, Including Holy/Unholy
16 Slaves +4 to all Magic Paths, Including Holy/Unholy
And so on and so on. Then of course fatigue is distributed among the slaves by the masters of the sabbath/communion.
You can only have a Crystal item work on someone who has at least 1 path in magic.
There is no benefit of having odd numbers of slaves except for Fatigue distribution.
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