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				 Re: Turmoil and Unrest 
 
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		| Originally posted by Zen: Well then since you asked so very nicely, there are a variety of answers none of which are more than likely going to answer your questions since I don't know every factor of increasing unrest.
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	Highly improbable. And doesn't explain why it matches only provinces with  this particular enemy dom.Quote: 
	
		| 1.  An enemy is using a spy against you in some way on multiple provinces. |  
 
	No. But 10+ provinces, most of which are adjacent to each other? Statistically very improbable.Quote: 
	
		| 2.  You haven't found all the sites and a few are causing Unrest.  Have you Acashic Record cast on all these provinces? |  
 
	It does? I haven't seen that in my other games. I know in my R'lyeh game I took a Pythium province that had -9 dom, patrolled all the unrest out of it, and it has stayed at zero unrest ever since, despite the dom still being in Pythium's favor many turns later.Quote: 
	
		| 3.  Opposing dominion in provinces controlled by you creates unrest. |  
 
	My neighbors in this game (thus far) are Ulm, Jot, and R'lyeh, and AFAIK none of those have stealth troops other than scouts. Ulm, the enemy with the turmoil dom, is down to a single province (I took his capital 2 turns ago).Quote: 
	
		| 4.  Stealth armies cause unrest (I don't know) and there are stealth armies running through your lands. |  
 
	Only Gift of Health is active.Quote: 
	
		| 5.  Global Enchantments are causing unrest. |  
 
	I take note of the unrest before hosting, host, and then read the Messages and check the provinces. I'm killing all the unrest and it pops back up again, instantly.Quote: 
	
		| 6.  You are not killing your unrest all the way.  Unrest produces more unrest and scales upward if you leave it unchecked. |  
 
	I'd already done this before I started the thread. But the issue is that it's only this opponent's dominion. Which leads me back to the Turmoil/Unrest relationship, which I think you've sort of proved isn't the case. It's crazy. It acts in my game as if there is a link, yet when you test for it you don't see one ...Quote: 
	
		| Try leaving the opponents dominion on your provinces, killing all the unrest by turning your tax to 0% until it's all gone, then turn it to 100% and see if it rises, if it rises in only places with opponents dominion, then you might have your answer. |  
 Does Ulm have an unrest-causing dominion? Special unit? Something?
 
 Oh, and thanks for all the time you've spent on this.
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