Noob's shot at an R'lyeh AAR

Arryn · #1 February 18th, 2004, 06:38 PM

The earliest I've gotten a Vastness is summoning-9. Your chances after about summoning-12 to 14 is virtually nil, so if you don't get one soon you likely never will. Best of luck to you.

Taqwus · #2 February 18th, 2004, 06:41 PM

Another random bit of weirdness you might want to try:
Darkness.
It's not exactly an easy spell for R'lyeh to cast based on its national mages, but if you can get there (with communion, this might be not that hard late-game), but it reduces the precision, attack and defence of every living thing on the battlefield. This matters a little less for illithids than for others, because mindbLasting always hits even if they're *blind* (so Solar Brilliance is also more of an option for R'lyeh than most, incidentally.) R'lyeh is also penalized less by Storms than many, due to lack of fliers or archers and again the prec-100 mindbLasts.
(Storms + Darkness + Stellar Brilliance would be overkill, but might be worth trying once.

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ioticus · #3 February 18th, 2004, 06:49 PM

Charon, I think calling yourself a beginner is a gross misrepresentation.

CharonJr · #4 February 18th, 2004, 06:50 PM

Arryn (sorry

),

I have read before that you can't summon a Vastness past 14 summoning, but IIRC in a game where I got 2 Vastenesses I got one fairly late (first one at 9, haven't checked the other one, but I think about 20+ turns later - but maybe I didn't get many summons during those turns and was still at 14 at this time).

Is there any reason for no more Vastness past 14 summonig ?

Taqwus,

hehe, yup, I did it once before (storm vs. indi archers), but I haven't thought about combining the different effects

Thank you again

CharonJr

[ February 18, 2004, 16:54: Message edited by: CharonJr ]

CharonJr · #5 February 18th, 2004, 07:05 PM

Splooger,

thx (I guess

), but with less than 10 SP games under my belt (non of them played till the end) and no MP-games and with the new things I am learning on these forums every day, calling myself anything but a noob would be crazy.

But I think that playing strategy-games for about 20 years (pc & boardgames) is helping with some basics.

Btw, what are the points which make you consider me anything but a beginner ?

E.g. from what I have read on these forums I consider my rate of expansion to be way to slow to survive in any kind of competetive environment.

CharonJr

Arryn · #6 February 18th, 2004, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CharonJr:
Is there any reason for no more Vastness past 14 summonig?

The reason IW gave is game balance. BTW, no one knows the exact number. The odds just keep getting worse from about 10 or 12 onwards. I consider 9-10 to be a moderate level, but apparently IW considers it to be high, and 14 is very high. They called my summoning-36 to be "absurd". I just call it very lucky.

ioticus · #7 February 18th, 2004, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CharonJr:

Btw, what are the points which make you consider me anything but a beginner ?

I'm just basing it on how well you seem to be doing in the current game, the way you explain your actions and the amount of info you provide in your AAR. You come across as someone very knowledgable about the game. But then again I only have 2 games under my belt in which I got creamed by easy AI.