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June 12th, 2004, 06:53 PM
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Re: New & raw web based Dominion II game server
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Norfleet, what's with you? Cheer up already!
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Nothing. I just didn't follow the apparent logic involved in the idea that being able to modify their costs would have any effect on the level of micromanagement involved.
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As I have stated often, the pool option is worse than the hunting option. And clam+fetishes are the best sources of gems. That can hardly be ignored.
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The pool option is worse than the hunting option? I'm not quite sure what you mean - are we losing something in translation here? While fetishes are somewhat more annoying, with having to inspect every single scout to see when he's about to croak and all, or give them to undead units, pooling from clams or blood stones is painless and quick: Slap pool, and all your gems are transferred to the lab. No muss, no fuss. It's actually far simpler than, say, blood hunting for a nation that also performs sacrifices on a regular basis.
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June 12th, 2004, 07:03 PM
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Re: New & raw web based Dominion II game server
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quote: Originally posted by Esben Mose Hansen:
As I have stated often, the pool option is worse than the hunting option. And clam+fetishes are the best sources of gems. That can hardly be ignored.
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The pool option is worse than the hunting option? I'm not quite sure what you mean - are we losing something in translation here? I've been through this with Mose myself, so if I may...
the pool option doesn't "work" for him because he doesn't like hunting through his units to put the pooled gems back on those commanders that he wants to keep them (if they are at a lab when he issues the pool command).
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June 12th, 2004, 07:25 PM
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Re: New & raw web based Dominion II game server
Pluse removing gem producing items all together would have a fairly profound effect on the game. Particularly large maps with lots of people.
Not necassarly better... but a different game
which could also be a lot of fun.
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June 12th, 2004, 08:51 PM
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Re: New & raw web based Dominion II game server
Last and finally, I was just posting a thank you note to Johan!  I also realized what thread is(!), and apologize for being extremly off topic.
R.Z: Thanks. You nailed it exactly. When I used the pool option, I lost a few too many battles --- or had the cost in lives markedly increase --- because gems that were supposed to be on certain commanders were gone. If you are going up against a massed missile army, and that storm spell doesn't go off...
As for the effect on the game, it is there, of course, but I wouldn't even say it would change the game in nature. Most markedly would the effect be on wishwars I think, though I have never been involved in one of these
As for the logic Norfleet, I don't follow you. Though I (clearly) meant to disable the items, increasing the cost to say 1000 gems would have much the same effect, IMHO. I would perhaps make selected water items cheaper to compensate; especially amulet of fish and other water-nation oriented items.
[ June 12, 2004, 19:53: Message edited by: Esben Mose Hansen ]
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June 12th, 2004, 10:40 PM
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Re: New & raw web based Dominion II game server
From the news section on my server:
[b]New options for new games AND master passwords now really working[b]
First: Master passwords are now working for real; it has been tested so it must be true.
Second: it is now possible to close or set an AI for all nations at game creation. In principle, this should work for games that are still open, too, though this is untested.
Third: be on the lookup for non-working options. It turns out that the order in which the options are specified is significant.
This finally conclude support for all (relevant) server options.
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June 12th, 2004, 11:18 PM
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Re: New & raw web based Dominion II game server
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This finally conclude support for all (relevant) server options.
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MAJOR congrats dude. Excellent work.
Of course Im now going to start looking for ways to add more relevant server options.
Or should I wait up until after the "mod on the fly" menu is done? 
[ June 12, 2004, 22:19: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]
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June 13th, 2004, 08:17 AM
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Re: New & raw web based Dominion II game server
Thanks! I wouldn't wait around for the automatic-mod builder menu, though. At best, I'll make that sometime after the next patch --- when modding can be enabled from the command line.
More command line options are always welcome  Adding support for most of them is just a matter of updating a database table 
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