Jervellan Wall??

Darryl · #1 February 19th, 2004, 08:09 AM

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Originally posted by Gateway103:
Provincial Defense is not the same as castle defense.

(snip)

To check for a castle's defense, right click on the said building (e.g. Wizard Tower, Mountain Fortress, etc) on the list on the bottom right of the screen when the province is selected.

-Gateway103

I understand the difference. The problem is no info is given. It just days "The Jervellan Wall". No numbers or anything when you right click, no symbol on the map, nothing. My fortress on the other hand shows defense values for the castle when you right click on "Fortress" on the bottom right of the screen. Am I missing something or does this not work the same way as "normal" fortresses? Is there actually some kind of defense for the province even though nothing is shown?

Zurai · #2 February 19th, 2004, 11:11 AM

That's the magic site (to clarify... the thing on your province info that says "Jervellan Wall" is a magic site, it just produces no gems, money, supply, or anything else of that nature, so there's no other text when you click on it). If you have not built a fortification there yet, you'll notice there is one now, with 500 defense/0 admin. If you HAVE already built a fort, you'll have your chosen fort type there and the magic site will do nothing. That's how I believe it works, anyway - someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Zurai · #3 February 19th, 2004, 11:11 AM

EDIT: Oops, accidental doublepost.

[ February 19, 2004, 09:11: Message edited by: Zurai ]

Darryl · #4 February 19th, 2004, 06:39 PM

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Originally posted by Zurai:
That's the magic site (to clarify... the thing on your province info that says "Jervellan Wall" is a magic site, it just produces no gems, money, supply, or anything else of that nature, so there's no other text when you click on it). If you have not built a fortification there yet, you'll notice there is one now, with 500 defense/0 admin. If you HAVE already built a fort, you'll have your chosen fort type there and the magic site will do nothing. That's how I believe it works, anyway - someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Ok, I couldn't see any fortification there. I was looking for one like when you build one, so if it was there there is nothing on the map that indicates it, and nothing to click on to see the defense value like the "fortress" you can click on and see values. Nothing to see any resources anywhere. So am I to understand that a fortification is "there" despite the fact that no other indication is given?

By the way, I have a save game if anyone would like to take a look and show me how to see the effects of the wall.

[ February 19, 2004, 16:44: Message edited by: Darryl ]

licker · #5 February 19th, 2004, 06:43 PM

Are people sure its 500 def? I thought it was 500 supply and a crappy def. Actually in one game where I found the damn wall I tore the sucker down cuz it was just annoying the hell out of me

Darryl · #6 February 19th, 2004, 06:47 PM

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Originally posted by licker:
Are people sure its 500 def? I thought it was 500 supply and a crappy def. Actually in one game where I found the damn wall I tore the sucker down cuz it was just annoying the hell out of me

In the game I have the province has 140 supply. Nothing looks out of the ordinary except that it has slightly more resources than other provinces (53 now) but I've had provinces with more.

By the way licker, what did the wall "give you" in your game? In mine it just seems to be sitting there doing nothing.

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Originally posted by licker:
Actually in one game where I found the damn wall I tore the sucker down cuz it was just annoying the hell out of me

How in the world did you "tear it down"?

[ February 19, 2004, 16:49: Message edited by: Darryl ]

atul · #7 February 19th, 2004, 06:59 PM

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Originally posted by Darryl:
In mine it just seems to be sitting there doing nothing.

You should have had a free fortress, but...

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Originally posted by Darryl:
Great. It's in a location that I started building a castle 2 turns ago. So I take it that if you build a castle there it's pretty much useless?

...since you were already building a castle, it didn't have that 'castle slot' free so that it could appear. So, you're left with a notation that there would have been a specific fortification if you hadn't been building one already.

At least I would think so.

Buildings from special sites can be torn down as normal ones (commander->build order->destroy smthng), at least in dom1 this didn't affect the gem income if I remember correctly (destroyed firlbolg castle and still got the earth gems, I think).