Surrender, Routing, and Pacificm

[vanedor]

I agree it would be nice to have a greater good/evil factor in the style of Age of Wonder II. In fact, this game get lot of evil, but very few good.For example, we have an utterly evil nation named Ermor... but no totally good ones. We have no way to make an in-game alliance(in sp) and create a pantheon. You cannot convert except by military conquest. It's all about conquering the whole world in a bloody war. It's not really bad but I wish there could be another way.

For example, I think an enemy/neutral province that has a dominion of X(put a number) and remain that way for more than Y turns should join your cause. Afterall, you are the one they believe in even if your troops arent there.

[PhilD]

Err, this is a game about fighting a religious war of extermination...

There is no good side. There are a lot of bad sides, and a few worse ones.

(Of course, being personally very anti-religious does not help seeing a "good side" in this game... but still...)

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by PhilD:
Err, this is a game about fighting a religious war of extermination...

That's a bad thing?

There is no good side. There are a lot of bad sides, and a few worse ones.

Sure there is. Your side is the good side, duh! And the streets will flow with the blood of the nonbelievers!

(Of course, being personally very anti-religious does not help seeing a "good side" in this game... but still...)

I'm not a terribly big fan of religion either, but if the religion is about worshipping me, that's enough to make me a believer.

[PhilD]

Originally posted by Norfleet:

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There is no good side. There are a lot of bad sides, and a few worse ones.

Sure there is. Your side is the good side, duh! And the streets will flow with the blood of the nonbelievers!

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Yeah, eye of the beholder and all that...

Doesn't provide too good an argument for giving bonuses to the "good guys"...

(Still, it bothers me a little that, at least in SP, each of my nations ends up summoning either big devils or hordes of undeads, mostly because they're typically not the hungry/greedy types of worshippers... what does that tell about me as a pretender god, I wonder... )

[Kristoffer O]

Originally posted by PhilD:
(Still, it bothers me a little that, at least in SP, each of my nations ends up summoning either big devils or hordes of undeads, mostly because they're typically not the hungry/greedy types of worshippers... what does that tell about me as a pretender god, I wonder... )

It tells us that you are a wise and prudent pretender that values the lives of your faithful servants. I didn't watch your kingdom closely, but I could see several provinces where the dead were toiling the fields and fighting the wars, while your loyal subjects sat in orchards drinking wine and munchin olives.

Let the dead do the dying and the living do the living.

On the blood magic aspect on the other hand, shame on you! Those virgins should have been serving olives to your wine drinking men, dressed in exotic clothing unfit for anything but serving olives.

[PhilD]

Originally posted by Kristoffer O:

On the blood magic aspect on the other hand, shame on you! Those virgins should have been serving olives to your wine drinking men, dressed in exotic clothing unfit for anything but serving olives.

What's the deal with olives and swedes? Do you have some special olive-related fantasy, or what?

[ywl]

It's way off-topic but to me, war is evil. Religious wars are even worse. Any game which glorify or fantasize one side as good, and thus justify the killing of the enemies, is actually more morally repulsive to me .

The game in its current state is fine.

[ March 08, 2004, 23:40: Message edited by: ywl ]