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Old March 12th, 2004, 09:57 AM

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let me expand on Ulm (founded in 854) a bit.

Ulm is the place of the tallest church in the world, the Ulmer Münster, 161.53m tall, built in 1377-1890.
the stair to the top of the tower has 753 steps, and the Münster offers room for 20000 people.

here a few pictures:
http://www.ulmer-muenster.de/portal/indmueg.jpg
and from across the Danube:
http://www.ulmer-muenster.de/portal/muentot2.gif

of course, Ulm is also the home of A. Einstein, and this year is "Einstein year", celebrating his 125th birthday.

if you don't know Einstein:
http://www.8ung.at/liquid1/clipart/bw/einstein.jpg


by the way, Ulmians, and the whole region (Schwaben) are usually accused of being stingy. there's a German joke "Schotten sind des Landes wegen Verschwendungssucht verwiesene Schwaben" but don't ask me to translate it
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I'm still waiting for an explanation of Arcoscephale. That seems to be a tough one.
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bow-headed.

no, seriously.

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Disclaimer: Of course I know that all nations in Dominions 2 are fiction/fantasy.

Man: Norman maybe. The description (conquered a kingdom/strict (feudalism) fits pretty well and the knight unit has a norman shield and IIRC even chain mail armor like the knights on the Bayeux tapestry.

Ermor: Rome. The names and descritptions of the legionary units in Broken Empire and their position on the battlefield are correct. But Soul Gate got it wrong: Tribunes, Senators and Consuln weren't religious leaders.
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Arkos and Cephale both stem from Greek. The latter refers to the head or mind, the former to leader or chief. At least that's what some Googling suggests.

Edit: As for Man, well, there's actually an Isle of Man, which IIRC has some Celtic heritage and related legends.

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"Arcos" means arc, or arch is essence, (ie. like a bow (same general idea)). Of course, "arch" can mean leader (as in "arch-druid"), but I wasn't joking about "bow-headed"



well, OK, "bow" is usually something like "toxou" in greek (mounted archers were the toxotes), but the point still holds...

really, though, linking the "arcos" to the "arch of the sky" or some such is probably a good bet; thus mixing it up semantically w/ Apollo/Apollonian...
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Arch as in the "arch of the heavens", perhaps? Arcocephale = mind of the heavens?

As for Man, well, the Isle of Man is considered one of the Celtic nations. I guess that's the best guess I have as to why the Celtic race is named Man.

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Edit: As for Man, well, there's actually an Isle of Man, which IIRC has some Celtic heritage and related legends.


Yes it's a small semi-independent island in the Irish Sea

http://www.isleofman.com/factfile/ for more details than you probably want to know ,
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If I may inject my opinion here..

Man to me represents a mixture of the cultures of the British isles.

As has been said, there is the Isle of Man. But also, we can't forget the contribution of the longbow to the Hundred Years War, and how deadly that weapon made the English armies in that time period.

and of course King Arthur himself is supposedly interred on the isle of Avalon.

I believe Lord Warden was also a title in England. (or maybe still is ) A lot of similarities.

Pythium in my opinion is representative of the Eastern Roman Empire(BYZANTIUM). Both tried to (rather unsuccessfully) pick up the pieces of the greater fallen empire. Although Pythiums armies are a bit more traditional roman than the greek armies of the east, I think it is overall a good fit. On top of that, its nice to see the purple standard. Very Byzantine.

Maybe their priests could have been eunachs though. That'd be kinda neat.

Other than that the way I interpreted the nations to be are:

Abysia - not sure. HELL?

Atlantis - I guess Atlantis

Pythium - Byzantium with a pre-christian Rome element

Man - British

Ulm - medieval germans

C'tis - no idea

Arcosscephale - reminds me of ancient greece

Caelium - not sure. HEAVEN?

Ermor - Roman empire.. though maybe later Rome when it began using a lot of foreign mercenaries when manpower ran short. Replace undead with barbarians and it works out pretty well.

Marignon - reminds me a lot of inquisition era spain. It could nominally represent the papacy too, though I dont think they wield that sort of religious authority, it helps me fit them better into the disintegration of Ermor.

Pangaea - Not really sure. It is sorta mythological in a greek way. Not really a greek theme to it, but the creatures I remember from reading old greek myths, but they could be borrowed from wider mythology.

Vanheim - To be honest, with their ships and some of their units, they somewhat remind of me of the vikings. But I havent played with them enough to really make any firm judgement.

Jotunheim - I guess another scandanavian realm. But more related maybe to a mythological era. Someone before gave a good analysis of it, I'm not really too sharp on Scandanavian lore.

R'lyeh - Not sure.

Mictlan - Aztec empire , or at least mesoamerican.

T'ien Ch'i - some chinese or oriental empire. Kinda Ming dynastyish.

Machaka - Not really sure what these lads are, but since we don't have anyone yet from Africa I'll make it a african tribal state. That's my guess since thats what pops into my head when I hear "Witch doctor"

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Marignon is tricky.

My heart says it is a spanish society, but maybe it could also be a mixture of Merovingian/Carolingian Europe with Spanish inquisition influences.
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