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 By the time i start using AR most of my researchers have 2 clams each and i have at least one gem generating enchantment up.  
			
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 I thought only 1 item of identical type can ever stack with another? Are you sure you are actually receiving 2 pearls on your dual-clam-wielders? (I *thought* I tested this out once and came up negative (only 1 pearl/turn)).  Counting to two gives me no problems yet. So the answer is yes. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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I thought only 1 item of identical type can ever stack with another? Are you sure you are actually receiving 2 pearls on your dual-clam-wielders? (I *thought* I tested this out once and came up negative (only 1 pearl/turn)). 
			
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I once had an oracle with four clams of pearls, and believe me, it did give 4 astral gems/round 
 
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 Hmm, something should be done about this        Yes, somebody (   ) really ought to prevent that. It can even be justified rather painlessly by arguing that the undead do not generate the heat from being wracked by the fever - or something like that. I.e. Fever fetishes only working on living commanders. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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 Hmm, something should be done about this          Yes, somebody (     ) really ought to prevent that. It can even be justified rather painlessly by arguing that the undead do not generate the heat from being wracked by the fever - or something like that. I.e. Fever fetishes only working on living commanders.  Uh-oh. Here comes another Machaka nerf. 
 
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It still will be abusable. A 20 gp scout will gladly (?) take care of 2 fetishes for 9 turns, thus generating 18x15 = 270 gp worth of fire gems. Net gain: 238 gp. Quite a bargain in my book. 
			
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 True. Requires a bit more effort to misuse, though. The truly nasty solution would be to make the Fever Fetish living only and cursed - but then it would cost 10 gems to create an item that generated 9 gems in its lifetime (unless placed on recuperating commander or within range of Gift of Health) 
 
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 Hmm, something should be done about this              It still will be abusable. A 20 gp scout will gladly (?) take care of 2 fetishes for 9 turns, thus generating 18x15 = 270 gp worth of fire gems. Net gain: 238 gp. Quite a bargain in my book.  You need 10 Fire and 10 Nature to forge the fetishes? That should make it a zero gain, if not a loss. I haven't tested it in Dom 2 yet. The fetishes should be gone when the scout dies, right? 
 
Nevermind - silly me. I never thought of taking them out before the scouts die. But the whole process will become quite an hassle. 
  
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 Hmm, something should be done about this          It still will be abusable. A 20 gp scout will gladly (?) take care of 2 fetishes for 9 turns, thus generating 18x15 = 270 gp worth of fire gems. Net gain: 238 gp. Quite a bargain in my book.  Quite a bargain, but not a micromanagement bargain . Unless you've got something to remind you to move them away at regular intervals... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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