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				Fire when guard commander
	
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		WIll ranged units fire at distant enemies when on "guard commander"? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Ah bummer. Thanks. 
If this could be changed       one could find a use for units such as mounted bowmen....  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Is this already considered as a bug to be fixed? 
 
It is pretty annoying and I dont see the reason why guarding archers should not fire when something is in range (and maybe charging the commander they should protect...)! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				Originally posted by Chazar: 
 Is this already considered as a bug to be fixed? 
 
It is pretty annoying and I dont see the reason why guarding archers should not fire when something is in range (and maybe charging the commander they should protect...)! 
			
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 This is to prevent two armies to be both set on Guard Commanders/Stay Behind Troops,  waiting for the other to come in range. It is not considered a bug. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				Re: Fire when guard commander
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Yeah, as PhilD said, this is something the devs have been against adding, for the reason he stated. There's been a lot of talk on the forum about this (and similar kinds of commands). 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Righto. But OTOH: Two armies set to "fire" will have the exact same effect as well (same as set to guard commander and firing while doing so). I fail to see the net loss / problem with firing while guarding a commander. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				Originally posted by tinkthank: 
 Righto. But OTOH: Two armies set to "fire" will have the exact same effect as well (same as set to guard commander and firing while doing so). I fail to see the net loss / problem with firing while guarding a commander. 
			
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 Two armies set to fire will have their missile troops close to melee range after their ammunition runs out. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				Originally posted by Graeme Dice: 
Two armies set to fire will have their missile troops close to melee range after their ammunition runs out. 
			
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 Which is why we need a new "Fire and Hold" command for missile troops (rather than just the current Fire & Attack), along with Fire while Guarding. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				Re: Fire when guard commander
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		
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  quote: Originally posted by Graeme Dice: 
Two armies set to fire will have their missile troops close to melee range after their ammunition runs out.  
			
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 Which is why we need a new "Fire and Hold" command for missile troops (rather than just the current Fire & Attack), along with Fire while Guarding.  But then you could end up with two armies holding indefinitely at opposite ends of the battle screen.  Which I guess wouldn't be so bad since auto-rout eventually kicks in. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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