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Old March 16th, 2004, 10:32 AM

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Btw, what is the highest possible precision in game short of prec100 spells? Btw, if I were to intepret the extra ) as a simple typo and ignore it, then the formula says maximum probabilty is at prec 40~50 (depends on Range), and actually starts to drop after that (prec100 has zilch ^_^) A result of regression fitting perhaps, albeit intriguing.
A precision of 40 to 50 is pretty insanely accurate. I don't think you find precision that good in the game, normally. The fact that it drops after that by the formula given is surely an artifact of regression fitting, which is the only feasible way that Cherry could possibly have derived such a convoluted formula. It's almost certainly not *THE* formula used in the code, but it's likely a good enough approximation for all reasonable values of precision.
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The formula looks faulty, here are some tabular results : prec 10 has a nearly flat hit chance regardless of range, prec 50 is worse than 20..


PREC
RANGE 5 10 15 20 50 99
1 45.12% 59.13% 63.57% 66.69% 64.12% 1.97%
5 8.36% 34.18% 30.44% 31.34% 31.05% 14.72%
10 2.96% 31.52% 26.04% 27.01% 26.95% 22.83%
20 1.25% 31.35% 25.18% 26.27% 26.26% 25.18%
50 0.43% 31.48% 24.98% 26.14% 26.14% 25.73%
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Old March 16th, 2004, 05:54 PM
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Oh, I should mention that I just made that up. Ha, ha! I didn't really think anyone would take it seriously...

Finding the formula would be tough, since it doesn't even exist in the game code - the precision formula just tells the projectile where to land; it does not give it a probability of hitting a given square.
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Oh, I should mention that I just made that up. Ha, ha! I didn't really think anyone would take it seriously...

Finding the formula would be tough, since it doesn't even exist in the game code - the precision formula just tells the projectile where to land; it does not give it a probability of hitting a given square.
What! And we trusted you!!!

That'll teach us to trust the "reputable" Saber Cherry

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Old March 17th, 2004, 08:28 AM

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Yes Cherrypie, you must not be fallable.
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Finding the formula would be tough, since it doesn't even exist in the game code - the precision formula just tells the projectile where to land; it does not give it a probability of hitting a given square.
Not really. If knew what that formula WAS, then the probability of it hitting a given square is the probability that the randomly selected square it will land in is the target square.

Even if you didn't know what the formula is, you could probably approximate it by the regression sampling people THOUGHT you might have done. What other data did you blatantly falsify as well?
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What other data did you blatantly falsify as well?


Not sure I can output enough rolleyes smileys for that statement. Cherry made a joke that was extremely obvious once you LOOKED at the formula, and you accuse him of falsifying stuff in his other, very valuable to the community, works? Get off your damn high horse man. It was a joke. J-O-K-E.
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