Uses of Indie Soldiers?

[Arryn]

I use summoned flyers of various types to attack archers. IMO, R'leyh's gold is best spent on buying illithids. You can never have too many.

[AhhhFresh]

Originally posted by Psitticine:
Knights might be a rather useful addition to Rl'yeh, actually. The Illithids tend to have the most problem from enemy missile Users, I find, since enemy infantry tends to get mind-bLasted trying to cross the battlefield and enemy cavalry are easily stopped by a wall o' lobos. Knights can flank the enemy when coming from the side with Attack Rear orders and strike against the enemy spellcasters and archers, thus helping to deal with that potential menace.

That was my thought... the main problem I've found with it (so far) is that I generally play R'yleh with Sloth 3... and I've only found Knights on farmland provinces (ie low resources)... even with a 40 admin castle, whether you can get enough Knights together to do much (at 48? rescources a pop) is questionable.

Arryn was right to point to the Indie Shamblers... since they seem like a decent way to go for the non-magic unit replacement for the virtually worthless slaves... high gold low resource... perfect for R'yleh.

And they actually move slightly faster than Thralls do (11 vs. 10), so they could be mixed together to deal with that measley 11 morale they get... and act sorta-kinda like a flanking unit.

Vine Ogres, I'm not sure about... they can't be summoned underwater, and can only be summoned one at a time... and nature magic isn't exactly R'yleh strong suit.

[Arryn]

Originally posted by AhhhFresh:
Vine Ogres, I'm not sure about... they can't be summoned underwater, and can only be summoned one at a time... and nature magic isn't exactly R'yleh strong suit.

Vine Ogres can be summoned 2x with an Ivy Crown, 3x by Crown of the Ivy King, and 4x by an Ivy King himself. That's 4 ogres for just a single gem. A real bargain.

EDIT: PS - Knights cannot be bought underwater either, nor can most indies. The ogres are a suggestion for a tough, cheap unit that DOES NOT EAT, and is not a magic troop.

EDIT 2: Given that illithids are giant-sized, and expensive, you need to develop some nature strength anyway so that you can make supply-boost items (feed 'em) and also cast Gift of Health (keep 'em alive) ...

[ March 17, 2004, 22:04: Message edited by: Arryn ]

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Arryn:
Vine Ogres can be summoned 2x with an Ivy Crown, 3x by Crown of the Ivy King, and 4x by an Ivy King himself. That's 4 ogres for just a single gem. A real bargain.

What about an Ivy King wearing a Crown of the Ivy King? Does an Ivy King have a head slot? Do the bonii stack?

[Tricon]

Isn't it a staff of the ivy king? Could be wrong. I just remember that an ivy crown combined with the staff gave like 3 vine ogre's at a time (for 1 gem a pretty good deal)

[Arryn]

Originally posted by Norfleet:
What about an Ivy King wearing a Crown of the Ivy King? Does an Ivy King have a head slot?

Alas, the King has no head. ("Off wit 'is 'ead!") So no Ogre-summoning abuse is possible ...

[Tricon]

Wait, it's the treelords staff. +one ogre or vineman (+2 nature magic , too of course).

[ March 17, 2004, 22:10: Message edited by: Tricon ]