.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

Raging Tiger- Save $9.00
The Star and the Crescent- Save $9.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > Illwinter Game Design > Dominions 2: The Ascension Wars

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old March 19th, 2004, 07:58 PM
Vicious Love's Avatar

Vicious Love Vicious Love is offline
Second Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 514
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Vicious Love is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Ultimate Nation Balance Mega-Kawaii Answer-Question 105%!1!1

Eeep! Halted, truncated, and interrupted! Had to rush through this, only posted the complaints I've read most frequently on these fora, plus one of the two new themes. Sorry, shall remedy it as soon as can get wid a computer. Either way, the discussion still stands.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old March 19th, 2004, 08:45 PM

Norfleet Norfleet is offline
Major General
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,425
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Norfleet is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Ultimate Nation Balance Mega-Kawaii Answer-Question 105%!1!1

Quote:
Originally posted by Vicious Love:
Ashen Empire Ermor is, in my opinion, virtually indestructible, because that's what the restless dead legions of Armageddon are like. They always win. Instead of nerfing them to get smaller legions or weaker individual troops, and thereby crampin' the aforementioned STYLE
No, Ashen Empire Ermor is NOT virtually indestructible. In fact, Ermorian legions really suck it hard. Sure, they're totally expendable and sprout out of the ground in ever-increasing numbers, but run them into any real opposition, and it's quite likely you'll lose them all with less than handful of kills to show for it. A single SC can slay them by the hundreds at practically no risk to himself. Longdeads, soulless, and ghouls are dog doody. They ALREADY are individually weaker than normal units by far. I regularly lose a few hundred undead at once to a drive-by priesting of composed of cheap $50 priests. Stupid frickin' priests. Soul Gate Ermor trades off the really wimpy but absolutely enormous legions of the dead for somewhat less numerous, but more effective, ghost legions, that suffer from ubiquitous 0 protection and fold over and die to anything with magic weapons. In both cases, Ermor's national mages are somewhat narrow in focus, with only Dusk Elders having but a single random pick. This is made up for in part by a pretender that can afford to burn a lot of nation points on magics, but you can't be everywhere at once.

Take it from me, the board's resident Ermor fanatic: Ermor is not as impressive as everyone would have you believe. I like them anyway, though.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old March 19th, 2004, 09:01 PM
Kristoffer O's Avatar

Kristoffer O Kristoffer O is offline
General
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Sweden
Posts: 4,463
Thanks: 25
Thanked 92 Times in 43 Posts
Kristoffer O is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Ultimate Nation Balance Mega-Kawaii Answer-Question 105%!1!1

That was a strange poll. Most of the themes generally considered unbalanced were not available for voting and I found myself being a commie!

At the tenth of April (when I can inspect the strange results) the thread will probably be dead, buried and forgotten. Perhaps this is for the best
__________________
www.illwinter.com
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old March 19th, 2004, 09:01 PM

Peter Ebbesen Peter Ebbesen is offline
Second Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 510
Thanks: 24
Thanked 31 Times in 12 Posts
Peter Ebbesen is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Ultimate Nation Balance Mega-Kawaii Answer-Question 105%!1!1

I definitely prefer Soul Gate over Ashen Empire. Slightly less micromanagement due to the reduced troop numbers, and the increased magic resistance on all troops means that enemy priests need to work much, much, harder on the banishments. It also makes Solar Brilliance less of a killer.

Even so, the casualty reports are staggering.
__________________
When I said Death before Dishonour, I meant alphabetically.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old March 19th, 2004, 09:08 PM
Teraswaerto's Avatar

Teraswaerto Teraswaerto is offline
Major
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Finland
Posts: 1,050
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Teraswaerto is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Ultimate Nation Balance Mega-Kawaii Answer-Question 105%!1!1

IMO, the only nation that seems "overpowered" is Pythium. Mictlan and Tien Chi are perhaps weaker than the average, but not by much. Some themes, like S&A and Carrion Woods, are quite weak though.
__________________
Great indebtedness does not make men grateful, but vengeful; and if a little charity is not forgotten, it turns into a gnawing worm.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old March 19th, 2004, 09:12 PM
ywl's Avatar

ywl ywl is offline
Sergeant
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 296
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
ywl is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Ultimate Nation Balance Mega-Kawaii Answer-Question 105%!1!1

Quote:
Originally posted by Peter Ebbesen:
I definitely prefer Soul Gate over Ashen Empire. Slightly less micromanagement due to the reduced troop numbers, and the increased magic resistance on all troops means that enemy priests need to work much, much, harder on the banishments. It also makes Solar Brilliance less of a killer.

Even so, the casualty reports are staggering.
A lot of the damage the Soul Gate undeads are not physical or negatable by MR. That kind of balance their advantages out.

Another ironical aspect of Ermor is even though you have a almighty pretender and a lot of gem incomes, you magical research is usually the slowest of the nations - even slower than the supposingly nonmagical Ulm .
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old March 19th, 2004, 09:30 PM
Tuna-Fish's Avatar

Tuna-Fish Tuna-Fish is offline
Corporal
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Finland
Posts: 124
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Tuna-Fish is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Ultimate Nation Balance Mega-Kawaii Answer-Question 105%!1!1

Vicious love, you have the best poll options yet on this board. But please edit it to show the results already, i wanna know how mnay commie friends I have
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:24 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2025, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.