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Old March 22nd, 2004, 12:43 AM

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The dominion was solid in my borders. At the edges, it was give and take, and in the Pythian provinces it was coming along (some to my side, some still pythian). Dominion wasn't really a problem. The problem was that when he attacked, he hit an outlying province on an island chain, then hit other provinces up the coast. By the time I tossed him off the coast and fought my way back down the islands, the Last province was completely depopulated.

I'm wonder if I had used the raven-something spell (ravens eat corpses and bring back gems) much earlier if that would have slowed his growth.

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Old March 22nd, 2004, 05:13 AM
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Growth is, what, 0.3% per turn per point of Growth? Even if there's a 1000 people left rather than 0, well, that's not much compared to an Ashen Empire dominion that kills up to 50% population per turn depending on strength. It's wrecked.

You'd be better off with Luck +3 and praying that the random number generator blesses you with an immigration event, then waiting the eternity it'd take to get something back up. Basically the pop drop is a one-way trip unless that happens, or you're using a mod to dramatically boost Growth scale power.

Ravens might have helped; they eat corpses, which might be helpful if he used Carrion Reanimation (reanimates up to 100 corpses per cast) or stops to reanimate, or used his own Raven Feast to eke out a few more death gems (not that this normally yields much IIRC).
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An Arcocephalian Priestess and a medium-sized phalanx with adequate flank support will butcher an Ermorian skeletal legion three times its size...
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Old March 22nd, 2004, 08:35 AM
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So can just about any heavy infantry group with an independent priest or two attached.

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To clear up a few things below:

The Enormous Cauldron of Broth is actually construction 2, not 6 (based on the Magic Item Quick Reference). The Endless Bag of Wine is construction 4.

Some advantages of the Cauldron of Broth is you can get it quicker research-wise, and in some cases you need to use them. If you put 2 Endless Bags of Wine on one commander, the effect is not cumulative. In cases where your commanders are leading large armies, the Cauldron of Broth can become crucial to prevent starvation.

Another thing that helps supplies a little is any mage with some nature magic. Each point adds some to supply (+5 I think).
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Some advantages of the Cauldron of Broth is you can get it quicker research-wise, and in some cases you need to use them. If you put 2 Endless Bags of Wine on one commander, the effect is not cumulative. In cases where your commanders are leading large armies, the Cauldron of Broth can become crucial to prevent starvation.
Which is why you use scouts with your winebags, as you are wasting a large number of nature gems if you use cauldrons.
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Some advantages of the Cauldron of Broth is you can get it quicker research-wise, and in some cases you need to use them. If you put 2 Endless Bags of Wine on one commander, the effect is not cumulative. In cases where your commanders are leading large armies, the Cauldron of Broth can become crucial to prevent starvation.
Which is why you give Endless Bags of Wine to scouts (1 per scout) rather than your battle commanders. This has the benefit that your battle commanders do not have a miscellaneous slot used up for food and the added benefit that the supply-generating items are never lost in battle as your scouts are stealthy troops that you can keep away from the fighting while still marching with the armies.

There are many good reasons for not having your commanders lug Cauldrons around when you can have scouts carrying bags of wine.
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