The next patch

dzbabi · #1 March 22nd, 2004, 12:47 PM

I don�t want to read the whole Bug Threat, but what is the "Utgart Theme" Bug?

I think it is more important to make the AI better:
-Bulding Forts
-Building much more racespecific Units :-(
-Changing Tactics

Endoperez · #2 March 22nd, 2004, 03:33 PM

Utgard theme bug makes Utgard theme of Jotunheim start with Abysian home site Smouldering Cone instead of their own site, and the Seithkonas are normal soldiers instead of mages... That is, you ONLY have the special mages of Abysia (and Gygja?)...

dzbabi · #3 March 22nd, 2004, 03:38 PM

I tried it 10 Minutes ago... how can this happen

Gandalf Parker · #4 March 22nd, 2004, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dzbabi:
I think it is more important to make the AI better:
-Bulding Forts
-Building much more racespecific Units :-(
-Changing Tactics

Two problems with the "improve the AI" thing. One is that is a SoloPlayer-only thing which kindof drops it on the list (personally Im 95% solo player but I can see that this is true). Although the fact that it would improve the demo and maybe improve sales might give it some points it still doesnt seem to hit the fun-to-do list. Something might get done but I dont think it will ever be as much as we SP's want.

The other problem is that while many say they want it improved, there is still very little work done by any of us to try and pinpoint specific suggestions. There is only one AI so it would take coming up with some specific rules on castles/national-units/tactics which are play-tested as though you were the AI (force yourself to play by those rules) and see if they hold up for just the one nation that comes to mind or for all nations. (there are a number of threads on this subject if you want to use the "search" to join in)

[ March 22, 2004, 13:46: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

archaeolept · #5 March 22nd, 2004, 03:46 PM

a misplaced comma or somesuch

Utgard gets skratti, warlock apprentices, warlocks, and demonbred. they can also build lava warriors, and have access to seithkona using Gift of Reason.
Not too shabby, IMO.

GavinWheeler · #6 March 22nd, 2004, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dzbabi:
I tried it 10 Minutes ago... how can this happen

A small error in the code can have unforseen consequences. Anyway, the other Jotunheim themes work fine, so it isn't too bad.

I'm tempted to say that the next patch is already on the download page, it's just nonexistant and unknown, but That Would Be Evil.

ioticus · #7 March 22nd, 2004, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:

quote:
Originally posted by dzbabi:
I think it is more important to make the AI better:
-Bulding Forts
-Building much more racespecific Units :-(
-Changing Tactics

Two problems with the "improve the AI" thing. One is that is a SoloPlayer-only thing which kindof drops it on the list (personally Im 95% solo player but I can see that this is true). Although the fact that it would improve the demo and maybe improve sales might give it some points it still doesnt seem to hit the fun-to-do list. Something might get done but I dont think it will ever be as much as we SP's want.

Well, I hope us single-player gamers don't get shafted again. I've seen this happen in too many games and I'm sick and tired of it