What polarity can we reverse today?

DirectorTsaarx · #1 May 23rd, 2001, 06:10 PM

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Originally posted by Puke:

would have to be that danm singing hologram Vic Fontaine, or perhaps that dingle Rick Borman who gave him so much air time and is ARSING UP all things trek-ish.

Hey - I LIKED Vic... yeah, the episodes were just filler-fluff, but think of them as palate-cleansers. You know, to get you ready for the next "serious story" episode.

zen. · #2 May 23rd, 2001, 08:01 PM

The obvious fave: da Borg!

Although I think they were much more menacing when introduced and throughout TNG... Voyager has reduced them to simple plot devices.

Although the sheer alienness of Species 8472 was also quite cool.

zen

Puke · #3 May 23rd, 2001, 09:29 PM

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Originally posted by dmm:
I liked the basic premise behind Wesley Crusher (boy supergenius), but he was SO poorly written. No angst, no frustration, no anger, no failures, nobody who didn't like him (nobody on the show, I mean). But then, a LOT of the early STTNG characters (ALL of them?) were poorly written. For instance, Worf's character was horrible at first, and Tasha's lines were so bad that she was unrecoverable so they had to kill her off.

i guess you prefer the seaquest DSV Version of the boy genius? (not a flame, just curious)

Possum · #4 May 23rd, 2001, 10:30 PM

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Originally posted by dmm:

IMHO, the best short-term (one episode and a movie) villain was Khan, and the best long-term villain was Gul Dukat. Each of them had admirable qualities, but their lust for power and revenge drove them to extreme evil.

I agree that Khan was my favorite villian, (thank god I saw the Wrath of Khan episode before Fantasy Island came out), but I must heartily disagree with that "lust for power and revenge" part.

At least in the first episode, Khan and his people were the Last remnants of a race, fleeing a genocidal war of extermination. What were they supposed to do, lay down and die? Even the lowest of creatures has a right to self-defense.

capnq · #5 May 24th, 2001, 04:37 PM

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I agree that Khan was my favorite villian, (thank god I saw the Wrath of Khan episode before Fantasy Island came out), but I must heartily disagree with that "lust for power and revenge" part.

At least in the first episode, Khan and his people were the Last remnants of a race, fleeing a genocidal war of extermination. What were they supposed to do, lay down and die? Even the lowest of creatures has a right to self-defense.

Hmm, as I remember that episode, Khan was the leader of the faction that triggered the genocidal war, and was fleeing to avoid prosecution as a war criminal.

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Cap'n Q

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the
human mind to correlate all of its contents. We live on a placid
island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was
not meant that we should go far. -- HP Lovecraft

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zen. · #6 May 24th, 2001, 04:38 PM

Heeeey...weren't they genetically bred to be superior? Ah well, at least the Nietzscheans got to strike back.

Oh, wait, wrong series.

zen

dmm · #7 May 24th, 2001, 06:16 PM

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Originally posted by Puke:
i guess you prefer the seaquest DSV Version of the boy genius? (not a flame, just curious)

I've only seen half of two episodes of SQDSV, so I can't answer that. What's he like?

A boy (or girl) genius should be troubled, and resented by his peers and adults alike, because he sees things from an adult perspective (mentally) without the benefit of adult maturity or prestige. Actually, from more than an adult perspective, because a boy genius by the age of ten is smarter than most fully-developed adults. Except that he only has the "common sense" of any ten-year-old (i.e., almost none)!

So, in the midst of doing super-genius things, Wesley Crusher should have been doing idiotic things, and making the adults around him annoyed, frustrated, nervous, and even scared.