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March 29th, 2004, 03:31 AM
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Re: Countdown to death
Yup. Gift of Health can heal any and all afflictions of friendlies in your dominion. Not only that, but all your units in your dominion have higher maximum hit points -- up to roughly double in 10-str dominion. For 40 gems (base), it's a bargain -- of course, you need to boost to prevent dispels or somebody else overwriting with his own Gift of Health. It's very, very nice to have.
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March 29th, 2004, 03:59 AM
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Re: Countdown to death
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Originally posted by Taqwus:
For 40 gems (base), it's a bargain -- of course, you need to boost to prevent dispels or somebody else overwriting with his own Gift of Health. It's very, very nice to have.
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What are the rules on overwriting a spell? Is it the more gems you put into a global enchantment, the more gems you have to put in to recast over it?
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March 30th, 2004, 12:41 PM
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Re: Countdown to death
Yes, somebody please post some wisdom about dispelling and/or overcasting global enchantments.
Pangaea cast Gift of Health many turns ago (>10). Does it get stronger with age?
I tried to cast it, using 49 gems (all I had) - didn't work. Fair enough. Tried to dispel his, using 60 astral pearls - still didn't work! How many gems will he have used??? Does the level of astral mage matter for dispelling? Will level 5 or 6 astral be better than level 3 with the same number of pearls?
Argh.
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March 31st, 2004, 02:28 AM
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Re: Countdown to death
The level of astral mage doesn't matter, dispelling is a simple matter of comparing amounts of gems.
if he cast it with (base cost)+61 gems, and you dispel with (base dispel cost)+60 gems, it doesn't get dispelled. You can repeat dispelling with 60 as many times as you want, but nothing happens. Only when you do it with 62 it gets dispelled.
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March 31st, 2004, 02:59 AM
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Re: Countdown to death
I'd like to add a clarification to the 'least-cost' Nature Enhancer.
iirc, the Thistle Mace is 10 N cost (requires a level 2 Nature Mage to do).
If you want the cheapest Nature gem cost, I think it's actually the Moonvine Bracelet (which, again iirc, is 20 Astral and 5 Nature), and it gives you +1 Nature (and goes in a Misc slot).
I may be wrong, but I don't think so (also, the bracelet requires 3S1N, and Construction 6, I believe.)
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March 30th, 2004, 03:12 PM
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Re: Countdown to death
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I may be wrong, but I don't think so (also, the bracelet requires 3S1N, and Construction 6, I believe.)
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You are wrong. It costs NNNS, 20 nature gems and 5 astral, not SSSN.
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March 30th, 2004, 03:32 PM
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Re: Countdown to death
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Originally posted by Tuna-Fish:
The level of astral mage doesn't matter, dispelling is a simple matter of comparing amounts of gems.
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The level of the astral mage does matter, and it is not just a simple matter of comparing gems.
From this thread:
"You also add the difference in skill of the caster and the path level of the spell to the gem cost of the spell and the dispel.
Your lvl 10 nature mage casts gift of health (lvl 5?) with 25 extra gems. Sum=30+D6(oe).
Dispelling astrologer has 3 astral. 35 extra gems. Sum=35+D6(oe)."
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