Vampire Queens and Sneaking Armies

[GavinWheeler]

Originally posted by Peter Ebbesen:

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Originally posted by Zen:

The only other Immortal Pretenders are the Bog Mummy and Phoenix.

And the Lich, the Master Lich, and the Lich Queen,

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..and the Saurolich.

[Firebreath]

Originally posted by Norfleet:

Maybe you could add a special item like "garlic", a misc item that gives +20 defense vs. vampires.

Haha. I like that idea. It would probably work quite well, too. The notion of 'vampire hunters' would quite clearly balance out the apparent superiority of the vq. Maybe the inquisition should get a nice bonus vs vampires, too?

I have a question though, as everybody here seems to pay the dominion costs of equiping the vq in magic...wouldn't empowerment work equally well and a lot cheaper, or do MP games just not Last long enough for empowerment to be effective (vq's are just as effective at the start with only very limited spells).

[GavinWheeler]

Originally posted by Firebreath:

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Originally posted by Norfleet:

Maybe you could add a special item like "garlic", a misc item that gives +20 defense vs. vampires.

Haha. I like that idea.

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Hmm.. a "Buffy the Vampire Queen slayer" Mercenary, perhaps? Complete with a whiny scooby gang.

[Truper]

Originally posted by Firebreath:

I have a question though, as everybody here seems to pay the dominion costs of equiping the vq in magic...wouldn't empowerment work equally well and a lot cheaper, or do MP games just not Last long enough for empowerment to be effective (vq's are just as effective at the start with only very limited spells). [/QB]

Its a question of speed. The one weakness a VQ has is a lack of protection. You need some way to overcome it, and the best way is an Earth protection spell. Quickness is also *extremely* useful, and the same school of magic that gets you magical protection also gets you quickness. A VQ with earth and water magic can be a terror from the turn alt 2 is researched, while if you were counting on empowerment or items, it would take a lot longer.

[Norfleet]

Water/Earth gets you some basics, but I've fought against W/E VQs many times, and I was singularly unimpressed. You really have to do better than that if you want to create something truly mean.