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Old April 15th, 2004, 09:05 PM

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Default Re: Raising troops in provs w/o forts?

I always advance like a tidal wave, attacking many border provinces at once. The goal here is not to create an invincible army, but to make a couple fragments that are still able to trounce the AI from 25 - 50 men each. or 10-20 Heavy Cavs. Never let an enemy army into your succulent innards -think clam-!

Let me demonstrate here.

M = my provinces, they've got nothing but defense points if they're attacked.

mad face = my army, big and mean!

< = enemy border provinces

? = deeper enemy provinces, they won't know what hit 'em.

Figure A. Turn before attack

MMM < ???
MMM < ???
MMM < ???
MMM < ???

Figure B. Turn after attack, my armies are where their border provinces used to be.

MMMM ???
MMMM ???
MMMM ???
MMMM ???

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Edit 4, I believe: It's also good to make sure you have spare commanders/armies so you can split forces when the enemy border has more provinces than yours, and you can reinforce armies with part of another army and not have completely neglect the latter army. Also remember to keep sending reinforcements into the front! Especially before sieges.

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Old April 15th, 2004, 09:11 PM
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So ... the AI building lots of cheap troops is actually one of the smart things it does, you're saying? Since if it manages to take 2 or 3 provinces in the time it takes you to recapture one, it whittles down your economy over time.
An AI beating a player, or making his life miserable, is not a smart move. Smart AIs lose gracefully, after putting up a fair fight that makes the player proud of themselves.
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Old April 15th, 2004, 09:34 PM

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heh, the answer is that: yes attacking from many places at once/harassing is a very good general strategy. It wins economically, especially if you try to counter it by playing defensively (eg tracking down all the various attackers). The best defense against this kind of attack is to mass your troops, and march them straight for the enemy capitol (or nearest convieniant castle)... assuming you start with a comparable force of troops, you should be able to defeat his fragmented forces in any province of your choosing... eg his home, and this is usually enough to combat the economic losses of his pronged attack.
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Old April 15th, 2004, 09:48 PM
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Some of you guys must think im complaining by the tones of your responces. I was just relating that i find it much more difficult to deal with several medium sized crap armies than one or two large ones. If you divide your forces to counter properly you would also more than likely start to take proportionately higher casualties due to 'fragmentation' (to use the term as it was coined w/ regards to RTS games). I was just wondering whether or not this was an effective tactic vs. human players as well.

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Never let an enemy army into your succulent innards -think clam-!
I like that line . I'll have to remember that. Clam up! Or is it Clam down...

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It's also good to make sure you have spare commanders/armies so you can split forces when the enemy border has more provinces than yours, and you can reinforce armies with part of another army and not have completely neglect the latter army.
Thats wise advice (though i tend to have lots of commanders in mustering the army anyway). I guess i need to move away from designing my armies from an top-down empire view and consider more the more subtle composition of grouping into differentiated, self contained fighing companies.

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Old April 15th, 2004, 10:06 PM

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You'd be amazed at how well your armies fare against most AI troops/nat def... excluding Ulm who always manages to pick off my commander with a stray Arby shot.

BTW, that clam statement has nothing to do with the Clam of Pearls, it's about normal clams

Edit: Me no type good

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Old April 15th, 2004, 10:16 PM
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No extreme is ever correct. I find that a balance works best. Yes its good to create elite armies and move them around. And yes it can be a good tactic to build junk armies. The smart thing is to use both.

I build "junk" armies in just about every province that has any resources. A mix of infantry and shooters if possible. They are ready to move fast wherever I need them, and they are expendable.

That way I dont need as many elite armies. They have time to get somewhere if the other guy shows up with an elite army.
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Actually, the main problem for my strat is when an AI overpowers with one huge elite army. But it's solved when you have spare commanders able to deliver troops to potential targets for said army.
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