OT: Flowers for the grave of MoM.

E. Albright · #1 June 10th, 2004, 08:34 PM

[Edit: EFS discussion]

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Originally posted by PrinzMegaherz:
[...] The AI is much to hard and builds insane amounts of everything even on the easiest difficulty level.

By the time I got my first dreadnought the AI had several of them orbiting nearly every planet.

Bah. Torpedo bombers. Dreads are naught but high-priced artillery...

(Oh, and like Dom, difficulty affects a player's initial setup, not how the AI plays.)

[ June 10, 2004, 19:59: Message edited by: E. Albright ]

Aetius · #2 June 11th, 2004, 05:23 AM

Wow! My favorite games of all time in one thread, Dom II, MoM, and EFS.

Lunaticus · #3 June 11th, 2004, 08:03 AM

Does anyone have an url for the patches for EFS?
Thanks in advance.
Lunaticus

Gandalf Parker · #4 June 11th, 2004, 04:45 PM

It would be best if someone uses the "private message" button, or emails you a link. If its a patch site it might be OK but a link where you can get the game is frowned on here. (it is a forum owned by a game company after all)

[ June 11, 2004, 15:46: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

Pirateiam · #5 June 11th, 2004, 04:56 PM

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Originally posted by PDF:

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Originally posted by Anglachel:

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Originally posted by FadingSuns:
MoM alone caused me to upgrade my computer. The animation for the nodes brought my 486 to a stuttering standstill. I loved the game enough to sink cash into a new system just to get that one part to run smoothly.
Dom2 might do the same for me now. I can run the battles smoothly with the 'world' hidden, but where's the fun with that? Lush battle graphics deserve to be seen!
MoM is still going to be #1 for me, at least until I start being able to stomp some races in Dom2. Gotta love the Myrror world!

Oh Wow! Your name just reminded me of a game that I really liked that I would love to find a copy of if there is one around. Empire of the Fading Sun. Flawed as it was, I loved that game and its flavor.
The mods -much better than the original- are also still floating around.
I still have everything installed, but have difficulty playing MoM and EoFS with my new Athlon2400xp rig - still in W98SE but my old mem settings with emm386 don't work anymore ...
Thanks for the heads up

I have a Anthlon XP system running MOM using Abandon loader. To get around the problem with expanded memory just open up your config.sys with notepad and remove the NOEMS in the Device code line. Should work fine. If you are confused I can e-mail you the edited config.sys file. Good luck.

Pirateiam · #6 June 11th, 2004, 05:29 PM

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Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:
It would be best if someone uses the "private message" button, or emails you a link. If its a patch site it might be OK but a link where you can get the game is frowned on here. (it is a forum owned by a game company after all)

There has been a long debate over the issue of abandonware. (I myself actually have an old copy I purchased of MOM long ago) I make a living programming (Indusrial Automation Ladder logic PLC's) so I understand the programmers side but when a software program is no longer sold or maintained by the intellectual property owner should it be abandoned to uselesness just to preserve that property?

Let me put to you in terms how my industry deals with it. Lets say I have written a ladder logic program to operate a waste water treatment plant.
I get paid for the program and work involved. While they own the software now, they can not copy my ladder logic (ladder logic is the code format) and use it in another PLC (programmable logic controller) without my consent. Now lets go 6 years into the future. The warranty has run out, I have moved on to another job and lets say they need to upgrade there plant. Should they be allowed to make changes to my code or even use it with slight changes in a new PLC? Now personally I do not have a problem with it unnless they are somehow making money directly from my code (reselling). Recently though I have run into company's that are trying to protect this code in industrial automation much like current game and applications on PCs. Customers go bannanas though since you are hindering any future upgrades etc... It is definately an interesting debate and I think it is far from being resolved.

As for abandonware I think a similar rule should follow. If the software is completely abandoned and as long as there is not a monetary gain the programmers should be flattered that someone is trying to revive there old work. Anyway who are we kidding the fighting going on is not about protecting the programmers intellectual property, it is about protecting the publishers pocketbook (not including Shrapnel since thay seem to be a very different type of game publisher)....but that is another debate.

[ June 11, 2004, 16:32: Message edited by: Pirateiam ]

Nargel Primus · #7 June 12th, 2004, 08:28 AM

Having a ball with the references to much enjoyed "classic" games.
MoM also had a unique side effect: my new "I don't play computer games"
girlfriend comes by for the first time and I bring up MoM on the screen.
"Give it a try" I tempt. Snerk...
Full 3-day weekend later she's still there (heh).
Am still married to Faelynn, so it worked pretty well.
One game that hasn't been mentioned that is in the same league for us grognards -
Fantasy General.