Pangaeda: New Age - the redheaded stepchild of Dom2?

[Cohen]

It's that hero only of Black Forest theme?

[HotNifeThruButr]

Stay the (insert swear word of choice ) on topic!

Ahem, I've found that New Era Pangaea is an excellent theme. You've got some of the toughest infantry and cavalry around (Centaur Cataphracts can take a buttload of punishment, with knight-like armor and inhuman hp while Satyr Hoplites are no pushovers. You supercharged minotaurs (Grove Guards or Keeper of Traditions) are many times better than Caelian mammoths or Arcosephalean elephants because they don't rout through your infantry as much. Even though you only have spears and battleaxes, your units' natural strength makes up for this.

I won my first game with New Era

[Nagot Gick Fel]

Originally posted by Blitz:
1) Everyone gets archers, you just have to go look for them

I was refering to this:

Originally posted by Blitz:
Pangaea's biggest strength is probably the recuperation ability of its units. The afflictions that plague other armies simply don't affect Pangaea. No more limping infantries bringing up the rear. No one-eyed archers putting arrows in the backs of your cavalry.

Since that's a post about New Era, whoever reads that would assume it gets national archers with recuperation. Unfortunately this isn't the case.

[Nagot Gick Fel]

Originally posted by HotNifeThruButr:
Ahem, I've found that New Era Pangaea is an excellent theme.

I find it a bit weak when compared to the default though. And it seriously lacks diversity in its units, for me New Era is a theme with only 3 units and 3 leaders to pick from. Hmmm, and after a while the only unit I keep recruiting is the Cataphract. Even Ulm offers more variety.

BTW, isn't it odd that the new Pan loses an earth magic level as well as the maenad magnet effect? Shouldn't it be the other way around? New Era uses steel almost as much as Ulm, which means smiths, which means construction, which means earth magic. I think moving that 2nd earth from the basic Pan to his New Era cousin would help balancing the themes.

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by Nagot Gick Fel:
I think moving that 2nd earth from the basic Pan to his New Era cousin would help balancing the themes.

That would make basic Pangaea almost worthless to play, as the only thing a single point in earth gets them is access to strength of gaia and kitharionic lions. That's not really anything to write home about.

[Gandalf Parker]

Originally posted by Graeme Dice:

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Originally posted by Nagot Gick Fel:
I think moving that 2nd earth from the basic Pan to his New Era cousin would help balancing the themes.

That would make basic Pangaea almost worthless to play, as the only thing a single point in earth gets them is access to strength of gaia and kitharionic lions. That's not really anything to write home about.

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Ooooh I tend to zero in on comments that make Pangaea sound weak if they lose a "face to face" army thing. To me, the major advantage of Pangea:default is using its sneak-army abilities.

[Nagot Gick Fel]

Originally posted by Graeme Dice:

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Originally posted by Nagot Gick Fel:
I think moving that 2nd earth from the basic Pan to his New Era cousin would help balancing the themes.

That would make basic Pangaea almost worthless to play, as the only thing a single point in earth gets them is access to strength of gaia and kitharionic lions. That's not really anything to write home about.

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Except you're wrong: base Panii get 2 earth levels. Moving one of them to NE Panii won't prevent them to use Strength of Gaia or Summon Kitties at all. Since NE Panii cost the same price, and don't even attract Maenads I think it would only be fair.