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Old April 30th, 2004, 02:37 AM

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lol, you don't believe me ?

Not much I can say to that, I guess.

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Old April 30th, 2004, 02:47 AM

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I can believe that every game you play it ends up that way. But I can also believe that the majority of the games you are playing you still don't exactly have the strategy you feel is strong to play with, or that you are playing with players who know their pretender/nation/theme to it's full potential. I may also believe you are playing huge maps. I can also believe that Dead Ermor is definitely the easiest to win with when you are playing those who do not understand alot of the different nuances of the game. You don't have to worry or know about quite a few of the systems of the game because they don't apply to you, so you have less to actually know, so it takes in essence less skill to kill other players of equal skill.

So, it's not that I don't believe you, but I don't believe that Ermor is overpowered by that same reasoning.
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Old April 30th, 2004, 03:01 AM

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While I did state my opinion in one sentence, I wasn't really interesting in debating it since it has been done and I don't want to re-hash it since I don't have anything new to add to the debate on whether they are more powerful on paper. And I am not even saying that I get trounced by Ermor or that they always win the conflict. I even admitted the possibility that maybe just everyone thinks they are over-powered.

I am saying that, for whatever reason, it has caused every large map game I have played to turn into world vs. Ermor (barring the one I allied with them for a change of pace). Hype or no hype. Noobs or non noobs (and I am the former, don't think I have doubts about that

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Old April 30th, 2004, 03:10 AM

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Oh, and let me add that while I am a very avid player and have gotten a few games under my belt, it is by no means a statistically significant, or even large, sample

It could be pure coincidence. I hope so, anyway.

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Old April 30th, 2004, 03:18 AM

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I like having Ermor around when I'm not Ermor. They're such a huge magnet for public ire, due to Kel's reported "everyone vs. Ermor" effect, that I can justify nearly anything in the name of "let's kill Ermor", all while pursuing my own agenda which has absolutely nothing to do with actually doing anything about Ermor.
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Old April 30th, 2004, 03:20 AM

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Zen, maybe it's because they have a big scare factor. All the living immediately drop their swords against each other and gang up on Ermor when it comes into play.
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Old April 30th, 2004, 03:34 AM

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I believe it is the MP learning curve and nothing else. Since games take weeks if not months to play, it is much easier to say the 'greater factor is this' because people spend more of their initial time playing against a certain strategy/level until they learn to overcome it. And it takes a while to learn to counter those strategies simply because this isn't a WC3 game over in 20 minutes game.
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