I need suggestions ... Ulm against Mictlan...

Vynd · #1 May 2nd, 2004, 03:33 PM

Well Ulm's national troops should cut through Mictlan's national troops like they aren't even there, what with the Mictaln units being equipped with dinky little spears and slings and whatnot. But just like everybody else, Ulm's national troops can't stop a bunch of powerful summons or a SC by themselves. And the VQ sure seems to be the most difficult SC to counter.

What you really need are preists that can banish demons, but I don't imagine you have access to any except your Prophet. I think Ulm's best bet against this kind of threat is to research Construction and use your smiths' forge bonuses to build lots of magic weapons. The lifeless construct troops you can get from the Construction path would probably be useful against the VQ as well. But that's sort of a long-term strategy, I'm afraid. It sounds like it may already be too late for you to get a strong, magically-equipped force into the field.

Cohen · #2 May 2nd, 2004, 04:00 PM

Well Mictlan has no national troops except some patrolling force there and there ...

He's attacking only with VQ, and Fiends.

So I'm almost doomed.

tinkthank · #3 May 2nd, 2004, 04:16 PM

How late is it in the game? What do you have researched? Do you have any mages other than your dwarves? Who is your pretender? What is the VQ armed with?

Fill us in, we can help. I cant imagine you having that much trouble, so give us some details.

st.patrik · #4 May 2nd, 2004, 04:18 PM

Don't forget the classic ways of fighting SCs - curse (Totem Shield), Bow of Botulf, Etheral Crossbow, 'Sleep' if you can get through the MR, Eye shield, dropping cursed items, etc. - don't try to go toe to toe against a magically superior force as Ulm. If you do you're playing to your weaknesses and his strengths.

Also if you have a rainbow mage pretender you may be able to forge some items which will increase your priests' holy power (although this isn't easy) so that more of them can banish demons.

st.patrik · #5 May 2nd, 2004, 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by tinkthank:
Do you have any mages other than your dwarves?

pet peeve: Ulm doesn't have dwarves. That's Vanheim.

tinkthank · #6 May 2nd, 2004, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by st.patrik:

quote:
Originally posted by tinkthank:
Do you have any mages other than your dwarves?

pet peeve: Ulm doesn't have dwarves. That's Vanheim.

Right, of course. I meant the functional equivalent, those 3-earth-1random forge guys. Smiths?

st.patrik · #7 May 2nd, 2004, 05:43 PM

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Originally posted by tinkthank:

quote:
Originally posted by st.patrik:

quote:
Originally posted by tinkthank:
Do you have any mages other than your dwarves?

pet peeve: Ulm doesn't have dwarves. That's Vanheim.
Right, of course. I meant the functional equivalent, those 3-earth-1random forge guys. Smiths?

actually they're 2-earth 1-fire [Vanheim's dwarves are 3-earth 1-random]

but no big deal - just a pet peeve I have - pay no attention...