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Old May 3rd, 2004, 11:47 PM

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Side note : Are there really supposed to be two bog mummies for Jotunheim, one immortal and the other not?
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One is a Dracolich.
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Side note : Are there really supposed to be two bog mummies for Jotunheim, one immortal and the other not?
One is a Dracolich. [/quote]

Eh... There's already a Dracolich showing up, for 50 points. A "real" Bog Mummy for 110. And a "pseudo" Bog Mummy for 100. Something is wrong if people can get a Dracolich for 50 points, or a Dracolich for 100 points.
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A fairly radical idea, not directly related to the Vampire Queen but would solve the issue of it being nearly impossible to kill.

What is it was not possible to have total immunity to two opposing elements. If you are immune to fire than the best you could do is 50% cold immunity, etc.

I don't know what other elemental forces directly oppose each other but they could work in a similar way.
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What is it was not possible to have total immunity to two opposing elements. If you are immune to fire than the best you could do is 50% cold immunity, etc.

I don't know what other elemental forces directly oppose each other but they could work in a similar way.
Curious about that myself, since the two elemental staves are supposed to give partial resistance to each of the elements used in forging it. But I've never seen or heard of "Earth Resistance".

And I agree - right now it's way too easy to get elemental immunities. Seems like it'd be better if resistances went in 25 / 50 / 75 increments, and _only_ a few artifacts granted full immunity.

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If the VQ were significantly altered, such as losing a Misc slot, I'd be dumping it in favor of the GK.
I don't think ANYONE has a problem with the Ghost King. It's a very strong pretender base, one of the best in fact. However, anyone can see that a GK is inferior in almost every respect to a VQ, yet you would choose it over any other SC chassis.

I have to ask though... what would you put in that extra misc slot... a pendant of immortality? C'mon man. Give me a break.
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Something is wrong if people can get a Dracolich for 50 points, or a Dracolich for 100 points.
The dracolich isn't immortal, so it's priced at the same rate as the other dragons.
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I don't think ANYONE has a problem with the Ghost King. It's a very strong pretender base, one of the best in fact. However, anyone can see that a GK is inferior in almost every respect to a VQ, yet you would choose it over any other SC chassis.
That's because at the moment, the GK lives in the shadow of the VQ. It actually has many positive traits, and is in some ways superior to the VQ: If you're not interested in actually LOSING, the GK's higher defense value will keep him alive where the VQ would probably bite the dust. Sure, biting the dust is merely an irritation for a VQ, but you're still losing the battle. Immortality can't help you there, if you're losing province after province, and having your dominion replaced by enemy dominion.

The whining will surely start anew if the current crop of whiners has their way and gets a significant nerf to the VQ, when souped-up GKs start getting crammed down people's throats. The fact of the matter is that if you want a pretender tailored specifically for the express purpose of asswhailing, not for any secondary objective like blessing, or filling gaps in national magics, you're going to pick a chassis that supports this, and it's going to dispense a lot of indiscriminate justice....because that's what you paid for it to do!
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