Dev Thinking on Balance?

[Pirateiam]

I know I have come to the conclusion that I will not play anymore Multiplayer games with VQ's in them anymore.I have been playing strategy games for 20+ years and I know when I see an exploit. The VQ is an exploit, no question. Every strategy Online game goes through this. It is human nature to find exploits. I have to give credit to the developers in that the units are very balanced, and boy are there alot of units!
But I think the Gods need to be looked at again.

There will be those that scream we are whinners but those are the same people that wish to use this exploit. There mentality is the same as professional athletes that use steriods. If you do not understand what I am saying watch the Southpark show where Jimmy uses steriods in the special olympics it could be enlightening.

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by Duncanish:
The topic has most likely been deleted by now.

The topic you arte looking for is "The Next Patch", and it should still be there since the Posts from Last november are still around.

[Zapmeister]

Some people think clams are unbalanced. Others don't. Bringing this argument back into the forefront is beating a poor, dead horse. You don't hate horses, do you?

I don't hate horses and I don't want to restart any arguments. All I want to know is what the devs think.

[Zapmeister]

I know I have come to the conclusion that I will not play anymore Multiplayer games with VQ's in them anymore.

Perhaps I can interest you in the mosehansen game Orania_Fast (see thread "Orania Semiblitz"). One VQ is allowed, however, in Black Forest Ulm.

[Norfleet]

Well, since this thread is now becoming increasingly clogged with non-developer commentary, without a dev having deigned to comment, I might include these insights from people who I think have managed to blackmail their way into being the beta testers, and as such, can probably be considered more skilled and knowledgeable than the rest of us:

Originally posted by Zen:
VQ is optimal hmm? Well, I'll be damned, I rarely use VQ's at all and I win 95% of all my games. But if dem's the facts, then I guess dem's the facts.

Originally posted by Jasper:
Vampire Queens have their points, but they're not that good. You just need to play with some different people.

So it would seem that least those closest to the throne believe that they are not all they're cracked up to be.

[Pirateiam]

Well, since this thread is now becoming increasingly clogged with non-developer commentary, without a dev having deigned to comment, I might include these insights from people who I think have managed to blackmail their way into being the beta testers, and as such, can probably be considered more skilled and knowledgeable than the rest of us:

Sigh....
No offense intended to beta testers but thier opinions are not the end all of knowing knowledge (I myself have been a beta tester for many games). If this were true then every game that came out would never need patches. The beta testers did a great job on Dominions II balancing, but many exploits surface later after extensive play by customers. This is common in most games on the market.

Norfleet, what I do not understand is that you are a skilled player no doubt, why are you so set in defending the VQ?? Would it not be more interesting and challenging with Gods more balanced???

[ May 04, 2004, 04:16: Message edited by: Pirateiam ]

[HotNifeThruButr]

I thought some people were going on about how the Ermor themes are a tad too strong.