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May 4th, 2004, 04:28 PM
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Re: SCs other than the vq
Well a simple man white bull with 5-6 level of nature casting regen/protection is cheap too... and will eat away a lot of indies
I dont think the main trouble is that VQ is too good against indies, nearly anyone can design a cheap Thug that could crush easily indies... problem is that VQ can pretty badly crush anyone without taking risk of dying...
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May 4th, 2004, 04:41 PM
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Re: SCs other than the vq
Bull rarely dies and is recuperating.
Other pretenders might get afflictions. Best avoid them altogether
I suppose it is cowards who choose the VQ 
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Re: SCs other than the vq
Carrion Dragon is simply amazing. Its dragon form has 200 hit points, great attacks, Fear 10+, and heals its wounds. Only significant problem in attacking indies is running into the wrong spell casters, or not being set to melee attack and exhausting itself casting weak attack spells.
But wait, it gets better! It also has a Carrion Lord form - 57 HPs, and a full assortment of equipment slots! Still immune to poison, still 0 endurance for melee attacks, regardless of what armor you put on it! And, this week only, buy the Carrion Dragon chassis for just 50 points, that's right, 50 points, and we'll throw in a dose of Stealth for the Carrion Lord form, and Sleep Vines too!
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May 4th, 2004, 05:07 PM
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Re: SCs other than the vq
Lots of pretenders make good SCs or Thugs, but of them only the VQ is immortal. It is a huge advantage compared to any other pretender.
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May 4th, 2004, 05:14 PM
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Re: SCs other than the vq
Phoenix. Lich with winged boots.
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May 4th, 2004, 05:23 PM
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Re: SCs other than the vq
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Originally posted by Kristoffer O:
Phoenix. Lich with winged boots.
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Phoenix cant be used reliably as SC, the base hit points is too low.
edit: I think IW is not putting enough emphasize on how exploit-prone are some of the tougher pretenders 
[ May 04, 2004, 16:24: Message edited by: Pocus ]
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May 4th, 2004, 05:39 PM
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Re: SCs other than the vq
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Originally posted by Pocus:
Phoenix cant be used reliably as SC, the base hit points is too low.
edit: I think IW is not putting enough emphasize on how exploit-prone are some of the tougher pretenders
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On the other hand you are doing a good job of emphasizing all sorts of things
Phoenix is splendid. 1 evoc (fire darts) is all you need. Reliability comes from immortality rather than HP.
Apart from VQ, which pretenders can be exploited?
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