This game is an expensive coaster

LeTharg · #1 May 24th, 2001, 04:05 PM

Why not play PBEM? Is the pace too slow? I find the pace provides opportunities for lots of diplomacy and conniving. Your opponents will be intelligent and unpredicatable. I've been very impressed with the ability, maturity and competence of the opponents I've met.

PBEM also allows you to role-play. I'm trying a berserker race in a new PBEM. It may not be optimal (or survivable) but I bet I have a lot of fun.

Nitram Draw · #2 May 24th, 2001, 04:18 PM

Hotseat is also an option if you are lucky enough to live near some players.
This game is definately one of the best human vs human games ever. There are so many ways to win!

klausD · #3 May 24th, 2001, 04:25 PM

Kagetora
Instead of complaining you should mention a strategy game where the AI is better than SE4 Vs.1.35. The fact is, that there is none.
Maybe you played the 1.0 Version and won "one handed", but against the TDM races its another story.

TCP/IP: who cares about this? Do you want to tell us that you are playing a game over the internet which Lasts several hundred of hours?
As long as the scenario editor (for shorter games) is not available it has no sense to play TCP/IP.

klaus

dogscoff · #4 May 24th, 2001, 05:09 PM

QUOTE:
"play against other humans in the manner in which most human being would consider the proper way."
/QUOTE

When you say "most human beings" I assume you mean "most MSG junkie 17 year olds with an attention span of 4 minutes". Play by email (and play by snailmail) games hav been good enough for most people for a very very long time - long before TCP/IP was invented. Never played postal chess?

I prefer PBEM because I don't have time in my life to sit down and stare at a screen for 10 hours at a time. (except at work=-)Plenty of others in this forum are in the same position. Personally I think the introduction of TCP/IP could ruin my enjoymnt of SEIV.

I need my strategy in small packages because I do other things too. I like having a day to think about my next turn in quiet moments. Just because you have no patience, don't assume we don't either.

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"Uh, I think so, Brain, but balancing a family and a career ... oooh, it's all too much for me. "

Richard · #5 May 24th, 2001, 05:41 PM

Just a quick note guys.

This is coming from an offshoot of a post to another forum. The original poster decided to attack Aaron and myself on a forum on cdmag and attempted to call both of immoral and unethical and other such nonsense.

I am upset about this but let's keep it somewhat low key as maybe you guys can convince him otherwise. However with his posting on the cgOnline.com forum I somewhat doubt it, but there's always hope.

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mac5732 · #6 May 24th, 2001, 06:44 PM

Richard I will respect your request, but sometimes people like this "person" need to be addressed.
I've been a gamer for over 40 years and I can say this

1st - this person is not a "gamer"

2nd - If he had the demo in Sept as he claims he knew what the game was like, therefore his statments are more then likely false

3rd - SEIV is one of the best computer strategy games ever put on the market, and with the modders additions, I don't know of any other game that can compare with the Ai

4th - Both you and Aaron have given and continue to give the "best support then any other gaming company, designer, or programer in the industry".

5th - This person sounds and appears to be someone who just wants to stir up trouble and in fact, I rather even doubt if this "person" actually has played the game let alone the mods

6th - If this "person" wanted to play other human players, why hasn't "it" played hotseat like a lot of the rest of us.

7th - therefore, I for one do not take anything "it" says to be other then what it realy is, and that is #$%^%$.

8th - I could go on but I hope "it" gets the point, and further if "it" doesn't like then "go to some other forum, we don't want or need persons of your unstable character here taking up space.

9th - I apoligize to you Richard and Aaron for my long winded post, and to all you other guys and gals on this forum, but this "person" needs to be taken to task

I again apoligize to everyone

just some ideas Mac

geoschmo · #7 May 24th, 2001, 07:15 PM

I am in a PBEM game with 4 other guys on http://seiv.admiral.com where we have gone through 44 turns in the Last 20 days. That's over 2 turns a day average, not a "turn every 2 days."

That probably wouldn't be fast enough for some people waiting on TCP/IP, but I think its pretty damn good considering we all have jobs and live in different time zones.

In fact we'd probably be up to turn 60 by now, but the Last week or so I have been very busy with other things and have not been able to keep up my normal pace.

Geoschmo