This game is an expensive coaster

jc173 · #1 May 25th, 2001, 01:27 AM

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Originally posted by Kagetora:
The AI is still the equivelant of beating up a baby and stealing it's juice. I am sick of people saying this company has such good customer support. They are still in the middle of a 3 year creation run which seems to be petering out 8 months after they sold this coaster. This is a mass produced fraud, not a game company.

Ok two things:
The AI, I've done some professional work on computer games before and AI is really difficult. In my opinion, the AI does have its problems, but I think there's a reason for that. The game was designed to be open ended for modification and improvement so a lot of the AI algorithms probably had to be generalized, because almost anything can be changed. It's a lot easier to design an AI which only has to deal with a specific set of situations and moves so to speak. However, the AI has greatly improved in even just the few months since I bought this game in February. As for the customer service, I'm not sure what you're gripe is. How many companies continually release upgrades and patches that incorporate user suggested changes and improvements or make allowances for Users to do so? Personally I know of very few companies that have given me responses so quickly when I sent in email. As for your second post, this is an honest question not sarcastic, but are you so sure that the modders and solo players are in the minority and that people who want TCP/IP play are in the majority? I mean seriously how do you know?

Puke · #2 May 25th, 2001, 02:26 AM

I want to know what games Kagetora has been playing that "measure up," because I have been missing out if they are that much better than the se4 AI. while this game is not the best AI ever, it certainly measures up fairly well in the latest Version - and I have not played a game yet where the AI could challenge a human without using numerical superiority or cheating.

SSI games were good, but they were not THAT good. Imperialism 1 was a fine product in my opinion, how does that one rate on the Kagetora scale, so I have some point of reference?

me3000 · #3 May 25th, 2001, 02:32 AM

is what i read correct? this is entirely the work of one man? holy cow; the amount of blood and sweat that went into this program is unbelievable. this is far better than any other 4x program i have ever played, back to the old days of the origional reach for the stars. this is truely an epic achievement. to whine that you dont like it - after using the demo - is rather crass. if you knew from the demo that you didnt like it, why be so silly as to buy the full game?

Possum · #4 May 25th, 2001, 02:35 AM

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Originally posted by Kadste:
Kagetora,
You seem like a person that likes to play real time strategy games and first person shoot-em up games. SEIV is not a real time strategy game, nor is it a shoot-em up game. It is turn based.

Guys -

I've noticed that it seems to be popular in here to denigrate those who choose to play FPS or RTS games. I really feel this is somewhat unfair.

Those who play what Kadste calls "shoot-em up games" are not idiots, not are they attacking us or giving us any grief. Why are folks here basing on them like this?

Kagetora is ONE idiot causing problems. Let's not condemn whole sectors of the gaming community on the basis of that, eh?

I have played Team Fortress for 2 and a half years now, through its original Quake1 Version, through the Half-LIfe Version, and now in the Quake3 Version. It has challenges all its own, and offers a team-play experience that no turn-based game ever can.

You may prefer oranges, but that doesn't mean those who prefer apples or bananas are bad people, or less intelligent than you.

And some of us enjoy a variety of fruits, eh?

AJC · #5 May 25th, 2001, 03:41 AM

I say this guy is just looking for flame bait and gets off on the reactions... a lurker with nothing better to do.

IMO extreme opinions like this one, that are obviously full of holes are not worth responding to, if it was true the game wouldnt be as popular as it has been.

Aaron has done and outstanding job - from the beta testers to the buying public we have all been working with MM.
Its like we have all had our own private programmer creating the 4x space game us old time gamers have all wanted since first cracking open Starfire in 1977.

Sirkit · #6 May 25th, 2001, 05:30 AM

Ahem,
In defence of 17 year olds to witch I am a member *growl* I personaly love this game for the very reasons he is complaining about, the ai (not all that easy in my opinion) the images (how customizable!!) and MOST of all PBEM. While this trouble maker appears to be griping to these main points I must respond with, 'uh huh' and 'oh really?'.

Space Empires is Old School as far as my generation is concerned and THANK GOD for it. If a single corprate mind got their hands on it would have been degraded to exactly what this 'person' wants a jazzed up, sped up semi shoot-em-up. Ug I think their is quite enough of those thanx I'll take SE IV and run, and if ever shrapnel sells it to the god forsaken corprate empires on that fateful day I will find an old patch and play on it because this is MM and MM is the best *)(( company I've seen!

And Now I will speek of shrapnel, and to this I must direct the attention to annette, if ever their was a persone to talk to it was her! I had problems with the delivery she went the exta ten miles to make it right! *Big Breath* I'm done ranting thx for reading.

Hotfoot · #7 May 25th, 2001, 09:10 AM

Hm, well, this is just my guess here, but I would say it's a pretty safe to assume that this guy is vulnerable to acid and fire.

Kagetora:
You say that there's a "silent majority" who wait for IP gaming? Hm, well, most people who want IP game would be Online I would imagine (they would to have an IP that anyone would be able to connect to). If that's true, then I would think that most people would have enough brain cells to rub together to find the MM or SG websites, and from there, these forums.

Even if that's not so, instead of coming in here and letting out a racehorse-sized piss of hot air, why don't you gather up all of your little friends who want IP multiplayer so badly and make your opinions known?

Yes, well, sorry about that. I wanted to have my first post on these forums to a hapy one, but I really just don't like trolls.

-Hotfoot
"Ah well, next time, next time!"