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				 Super maenad 
 I have just discovered that I have gained a very unusual maenad. Her name is Li T'ieh-Kuai, she a commander with AASSSDD (very interesting addition for Panagaea), but otherwise looks like an ordinary maenad. I didn't get an event notification that I know of, I already have all the vanilla Pangaea heroes, so it seems she just autospawned like all other maenads. Not that I'm complaining, of course, but it was nevertheless a surprise when I saw her, so I was wondering does anyone have more info on this "event"?
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				May 28th, 2004, 05:32 AM
			
			
			
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 That's the reincarnation "feature".
 It's been known to happen, that when a commander dies, sometimes, a unit that spawns at the same time is created with the magical abilities and name of the deceased individual. Illwinter is unable to ascertain why, exactly, this occurs at any given time.
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				May 28th, 2004, 05:45 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Super maenad 
 Ah, so she's in fact a reincarnation of a Tien Chi heroine? I never saw her Tien Chi analogue, so I wouldn't know. Still, it's thematic - reincarnation in the true sense of the word - she is given a new life as someone else when her immortality couldn't save her any more.
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 Hey, even if it's unintentional, it's still a fun feature. I do wonder though, what kind of commander died to give those paths? |  
	
		
	
	
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 Yes, it does have to be one of the funnest bugs I can recall in any game. Fortunately it's really rare, so I'd say it's a contribution rather than a problem.
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	The original Tien Chi hero was good old Mr. Master of the Iron Crutch himself, the disease-spreading hero that everyone loves to hate.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by HJ: Ah, so she's in fact a reincarnation of a Tien Chi heroine? I never saw her Tien Chi analogue, so I wouldn't know.
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 Iron Crutch is a great mage, but stories abound of "Augh! Iron Crutch diseased my pretender/best mage/other hero/etc".
 
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				 Re: Super maenad 
 I just experienced my own "reincarnation" moment: A commander named Bifrons, perhaps the same as the Ice Devil, got reincarnated....as a Vampire! He came apparently empowered, too, with S4/W3 as his magic paths, which is two astral empowerments above his base....AND he came with three items, a Starshine, a Crystal Coin, and a Water Bracelet.
 How cool is that? He came with bonus magic, bonus items, AND came on a chassis that doesn't suck!
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	The combination of items sounds exactly like it would give the "empowered" combination (the base is S2/W2 IIRC). What you mean to say is that items were on top of that, i.e that he had S6/W4 with items?Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Norfleet: He came apparently empowered, too, with S4/W3 as his magic paths, which is two astral empowerments above his base....AND he came with three items, a Starshine, a Crystal Coin, and a Water Bracelet.
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	That's right, Chief. Bifrons is normally W3/S2, BTW. The reincarnated vampire came with S6/W4, including his equipped items....meaning that he had been empowered twice in Astral as well. Pretty sweet.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by HJ: What you mean to say is that items were on top of that, i.e that he had S6/W4 with items?
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	That's right, Chief. Bifrons is normally W3/S2, BTW. The reincarnated vampire came with S6/W4, including his equipped items....meaning that he had been empowered twice in Astral as well. Pretty sweet.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Norfleet: 
 quote:Originally posted by HJ:
 What you mean to say is that items were on top of that, i.e that he had S6/W4 with items?
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 And why would anyone give an ice devil a water bracelet?
 
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