What am I supposed to do with Shamen?

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by Chris Byler:
Building temples is a Hierodule's job. What does the Keeper do that the red Sauromancer doesn't do better?

Cast fire spells with a skull of fire and phoenix power? Also site searching with the same items. Not as generally useful as the Shaman perhaps.

[Nagot Gick Fel]

Originally posted by Graeme Dice:

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Originally posted by Chris Byler:
Building temples is a Hierodule's job. What does the Keeper do that the red Sauromancer doesn't do better?

Cast fire spells with a skull of fire and phoenix power? Also site searching with the same items. Not as generally useful as the Shaman perhaps.

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Giving them a Skull Staff and having them summon Banefire archers in droves is much more fun!

[Blitz]

Unfortunately all those nice things that you can now do with the keeper were things you could already do with either a heriodule or a saromancer.

Losing all your nature and astral magic sucks. No amulet of MR, no pendant of luck, no magic deul, no arcane probing, no communion (ergo no relief, astral healing, antimagic). He's not better than the shaman.

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by Blitz:
Losing all your nature and astral magic sucks. No amulet of MR, no pendant of luck, no magic deul, no arcane probing,

You still have all of these ones through the randoms on your sauromancers.

[Blitz]

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Originally posted by Blitz:
Losing all your nature and astral magic sucks. No amulet of MR, no pendant of luck, no magic deul, no arcane probing,
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You still have all of these ones through the randoms on your sauromancers.

Fine Graeme. But the next time you cast relief with a saromancer, be sure to let me know.

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by Blitz:
Fine Graeme. But the next time you cast relief with a saromancer, be sure to let me know.

Does being a patronizing ******* come naturally to you, or do you have to work at it?

You'll notice that I specifically kept only those things that could be done with either 1 nature or 1 astral.

[Blitz]

Does being a patronizing ******* come naturally to you, or do you have to work at it?

You'll notice that I specifically kept only those things that could be done with either 1 nature or 1 astral.

The point is that losing the shaman is a negative, and gaining the keeper is a small consolation. By implying that the random pick of the Sauromancer could make up for this loss, you mislead players. And yes, if you continue to nit-pick my Posts, I suppose I'll have to continue to patronize you.