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Old June 22nd, 2004, 04:55 AM

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Thanks for the reply. Yes, the Skrattis are in the front row. I tried with 5 slaves now, and they still won't do it. I'm pulling in regular commanders, astrologers, mystics and Orokestes the Arco hero.

The only other thing I can think of is that I have a drain 3 dominion. But even so, the guy with blood 3 and 5 slaves should be able to cast it without problems.

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Are they holding the blood slaves personally, or are you using mules in the back? Are there any "stray" mages consuming the blood slaves before your Skrattis can use them? It seems like you have a reasonable setup that SHOULD work....unless.....aha!

I see the problem.

The problem is that the mages are being too smart for their own good: They're not casting because Hellbind Heart requires gems to cast....and a lone enemy commander is, apparently, unworthy of having gems wasted on him. So your mages refuse to cast the spell.
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Old June 22nd, 2004, 05:09 AM

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They have all the slaves in their gembox, and the only thing that's consuming them is their Breath of Winter...

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The problem is that the mages are being too smart for their own good: They're not casting because Hellbind Heart requires gems to cast....and a lone enemy commander is, apparently, unworthy of having gems wasted on him. So your mages refuse to cast the spell.
So, in order for it to ever work, I would have to have pure blood mages? I mean, all battle blood magic requires "gems", and if they know any other path they'll always have something else to cast.

As I said, if we cannot have full control over battles, at least the AI shouldn't pretend to be smart and abandon scripts when they are doable.
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Old June 22nd, 2004, 05:23 AM

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I think they'd still abandon the script if they think it's too excessive. They'd probably end up casting Bleed or Agony or something stupid like that...
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This topic sounds like another reason for gamers to have a way of disabling spells for commanders. Hopefully we'll see this added into dominions_3.
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They have all the slaves in their gembox, and the only thing that's consuming them is their Breath of Winter...

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The problem is that the mages are being too smart for their own good: They're not casting because Hellbind Heart requires gems to cast....and a lone enemy commander is, apparently, unworthy of having gems wasted on him. So your mages refuse to cast the spell.
So, in order for it to ever work, I would have to have pure blood mages? I mean, all battle blood magic requires "gems", and if they know any other path they'll always have something else to cast.

As I said, if we cannot have full control over battles, at least the AI shouldn't pretend to be smart and abandon scripts when they are doable.

People used to complain when AI didn't abandon scripts and wasted gems in underwhelming forces. Before the script override you could teleport in a single commander before you walked in a separeate army, thus depleting all the gems of the spellcasters before the main force arrive. This was a complaint from dom 1 that was remedied for dom 2.
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A "spell casting AI override on/off" switch in the orders menu would be nice, though I have no idea how much work something like that would entail.
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