Bless Effects

quantum_mechani · #1 June 26th, 2004, 11:34 PM

If you REALLY want to go for bless with vans I would do something like this:

Moloch F9W9 Order 3, Sloth 3, Cold 2, Misfortune 2, Drain 2, Mausoleum.

Huzurdaddi · #2 June 27th, 2004, 12:30 AM

Do you really think that the 10 admin of the Mausoleum is worth the 40 points?

I did test out the F9W9 blessing 1st and as expected it kicks ***.

I have not tried out the F4W4D4B4 blessing yet. I figure it will be less potent. However the pretender is in many ways better. Immortal rainbow-ish. has a lot of the cross requirements for a lot of the good blood summons and he can seach well.

Any other ideas? Anyone know of other really good bless targets ( Vanhiem has 2! ).

quantum_mechani · #3 June 27th, 2004, 02:23 AM

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Originally posted by Huzurdaddi:
Do you really think that the 10 admin of the Mausoleum is worth the 40 points?

It provides twice the gold bonus of the watch tower.

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I did test out the F9W9 blessing 1st and as expected it kicks ***.

I have not tried out the F4W4D4B4 blessing yet. I figure it will be less potent. However the pretender is in many ways better. Immortal rainbow-ish. has a lot of the cross requirements for a lot of the good blood summons and he can seach well.

Yes, rainbow bless can work, if done right it can give you good bless effects, a SC, AND a rainbow mage.

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Any other ideas? Anyone know of other really good bless targets ( Vanhiem has 2! ).

Marignon flagellents are great with fire, Man's Tuatha theme has some nice, cheap van-like sacreds.

Kel · #4 June 27th, 2004, 03:01 AM

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Originally posted by Huzurdaddi:
Do you really think that the 10 admin of the Mausoleum is worth the 40 points?

I probably play a mausoleum about 40% of the time.

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Any other ideas? Anyone know of other really good bless targets ( Vanhiem has 2! ).

Vanheim has two, not including comanders, but they are both very expensive.

As mentioned, Marignon is good. Jotunheim is popular with a nature blessing as well.

Personally, while I am not a huge fan of bless strategies, I have been playing with some base C'tis blessings. Dancers, with a water blessing, have a huge defense (like 21-22 ? can't recall offhand since some had xp stars) and, of course, the quickness (which means they keep up easier with the Elite Cavalry which do nice damage but die easily). I would expand on it but I don't want to sidetrack too much

- Kel

Huzurdaddi · #5 June 27th, 2004, 04:07 AM

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Yes, rainbow bless can work, if done right it can give you good bless effects, a SC, AND a rainbow mage.

What I found was that the F4W4D6B4 troops were just as good against mortal independents ( did not get to try against undead, I figure they will not be as good ) but they caused less casualties. Pretty much as expected.

So they will be as good against indeps, but not really as good against humans.

But you do get an SC and a rainbow. Which is *really* nice.

Huzurdaddi · #6 June 27th, 2004, 04:14 AM

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Personally, while I am not a huge fan of bless strategies, I have been playing with some base C'tis blessings. Dancers, with a water blessing, have a huge defense (like 21-22 ? can't recall offhand since some had xp stars) and, of course, the quickness (which means they keep up easier with the Elite Cavalry which do nice damage but die easily).

I think it's 20 defence. Assuming W9. The thing I found really useful with C'tis was better a good sized death blessing for the fear. The dancers are cheap so you can mass them and still have a normal army ( unlike Vans ) and the mix of fear invoking troops makes the other side break almost instantly.

SelfishGene · #7 June 27th, 2004, 07:36 AM

I had some fun testing a Neifel Jarl Prophet with 9E 9N. Decent enough SC even at turn 3, and racked up 100+ kills in a few turns, however i ran into a large barb province which killed him in one round of combat. And then killed the second Neifel Jarl i sent. And then beat the small army i sent! No archers is bad manner.