Amazon Mod

[PvK]

Thanks for the feedback!

I suppose it would make sense to be able to combine say the skill level and sacredness of Griffon Riders (minus the mounted bonus, of course) with say Onyx tribe armor, in a capitol-only infantry unit. It's sort of an interesting limitation though that they don't have such a unit, seeing as they do have so many other good units.

The only way I know to make a unit capitol-only, though, is to steal the unique Horse's Vale (?) site and mods its unit, but there are other mods that do that, which Amazon Empire mod would then become incompatible with, so maybe just wait for a mod command to do that. Or, I could add a unit type and then make them part of the starting army - you could never build more of them, but that could be interesting in itself (maybe more appropriate for some other mod - for example, would be a cool thing for Black Forest Ulm, actually, to give them some old Ulm units which they can't build).

Of course, there is already something sort of like this in the Amazon Leaders, but they're very expensive.

PvK

[Boron]

i myself like the mod too
it's really well balanced and not overpowered .
you really have all 8 paths but some only 1 lvl and most lvl 2 .

i think too they could need a capitol only special unit too because their national infantry is quite weak and the 4 sacred special units are either quite expensive or not worth making a bless strategy around like with vanheim or marignon .

and you have lower gemincome than any nation from the start

so if the new mod command comes only add 1 or 2 types of capitol only special troops but otherwise a really nice mod

[Nagot Gick Fel]

Originally posted by PvK:
The only way I know to make a unit capitol-only, though, is to steal the unique Horse's Vale (?) site and mods its unit, but there are other mods that do that, which Amazon Empire mod would then become incompatible with, so maybe just wait for a mod command to do that.

You can do exactly the same thing with the Hidden Grove and change the Pandemoniac to your new unit. Since your mode replaces Pangaea it shouldn't be a problem at all.

Quite frankly, I don't think your mod needs an extra unit though. It's powerful enough as it is.

About bless strategies, I've found Earth-9 on Nightmares just rocks. 17 prot is decent for a cavalry unit, the extra reinvig comes handy since their other main weakness is their stratospherically high encumberance. And their Fear aura makes it like you have a powerful dual Earth/Death blessing. The aura works like a charm when you have enough of them. And OFC the reinvig is nice to have on priestesses - especially Crystal Amazons you use as communion slaves. Have an Onyx priestess/sorceress communion master boost that further with Summon Earthpower, add Relief support from Jade sorceresses, and you'll have to try real hard to lose a single communion slave to exhaustion.

[PvK]

Great solution, Nagot!

I think you're right that they don't need a blessed infantry unit. Their infantry isn't high-protection or sacred but it is skilled.

Perhaps the sacred unit should be a standard-bearer wielding the traditional gilt double-bladed labris axe. That would be thematic, add variety, and also provide an excuse to add a little to their cost so they aren't plain more efficient than the existing options.

PvK

[Boron]

with special i didn't mean an additional blessed unit but one capitol only stronger expensive unit

[Nagot Gick Fel]

Originally posted by PvK:
Perhaps the sacred unit should be a standard-bearer wielding the traditional gilt double-bladed labris axe.

Tu quoque, Brutu!

Very strange, this apparently overwhelming tendency modders have to add standards or standard effects of all sorts to their units and commanders. Many mods available for download from IW share this feature!

That would be thematic,

If you say so it must be so, although the reason why it would be thematic escapes me at the moment.

add variety,

Isn't there enough yet? The only lack of variety I find in your mod is due to the omnipresence of only one gender.

Well, if more variety is needed my first idea would be to add a Mata-Hari-like unit, similar in ability to the Ti'en Ch'i female spy (forgot the name, probably 'Consort').

[PvK]

Well ya they have tons of variety already, with four types of good (if not high-protection) infantry, four types of sacred cavalry/fliers(!), and all magic paths covered, plus the common units I added... they're one of the most diverse nations around.

The Labrys axe is an Amazon icon, from ancient references to its use, and a symbolic link to the historical Amazonian dual queen system - the axe is double-bladed, and served a dual purpose as weapon and farm tool. I worked it into the flag icon, which is why it seemed "thematic" to me to have it as a standard. Maybe not, though.

Trying to avoid adding new stuff to them since they already have so much different stuff, and seeing no better armor in their current inventory, I'm thinking instead that maybe quarterstaff or Snake Staff elites might serve the purpose of these two requests, by giving a high-defense unit, if not a high-prot one. I guess broadswords would do it, too, slightly better (since the shield is retained for anti-missile survival) and without making them Jades (the snakes).

PvK