Your favorite nations / themes -- and why! please participate!

Schmoe · #1 July 10th, 2004, 06:00 PM

Just out of curiousity, what is wrong with Caelum Return of the Raptors? They get good access to both Air and Death magic, two very strong schools, and the mages seem reasonably priced. It looks as though they could do quite well.

Boron · #2 July 10th, 2004, 08:13 PM

i didn't expect that abysia is the most liked race so far . i wonder why ermor has quite few votes

i myself like abysia too and one of my votes was for abysia but that they are the most liked so far surprises me a bit

Gandalf Parker · #3 July 11th, 2004, 12:39 AM

Overall Id say it looks great. No real "zeros", and the default themes are generally ahead of the sub-themes. I think thats how the developers wanted it. And its rather an amazing achievment.
I know of alot of games with only 3 or 5 choices that got it so messed up that a poll like this would end up with nearly 100% all agreeing on one.

Norfleet · #4 July 11th, 2004, 01:08 AM

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Originally posted by Schmoe:
Just out of curiousity, what is wrong with Caelum Return of the Raptors? They get good access to both Air and Death magic, two very strong schools, and the mages seem reasonably priced. It looks as though they could do quite well.

They have no randoms, their upper-class mage and only (lousy)priest is capitol-only, and their earth magic is low-level and not, by default, capable of reaching the level needed to actually forge boots/hammers. They also lose out on national cold immunity, as the Raptors are not cold-immune and are harmed by the cold-3 dominion.

Plus it's just a general pain in the *** to be unable to build any kind of national priest outside of the capitol, and your only priest is rather expensive and isn't actually a very GOOD priest, to boot - at least the Elder is mobile thanks to trapezing, though.

Kel · #5 July 11th, 2004, 01:53 AM

I still experiment a lot but so far, I like Arco, Aby and Miasma the best.

I play Aby when I want a fast start via a blood nation (occasionally BF Ulm but mostly Aby). Small maps, blitzes, etc. Not a lot of micro, not a lot of re-scripting mages, etc. but still effective.

I play Miasma because I like the potential for tartarians and the Miasma effect helps me get to them and can otherwise be a nice MP tool. I also like Miasma because I think they are a bit of a challenge (compared to Aby and Arc, anyway), due to their, imo, abysmal national troops. Otoh, I love marshmasters. I probably play Miasma the most, of the three, since I feel like I haven't *quite* got my finger on them yet

I play Arco (mostly default but sometimes GE) when I want to do well and have tons of time to script mages, complicated communions, teleports,, excessive artifacting, etc. I don't play them defensively but I think more long term with them (large or underpopulated maps).

I don't really dislike any nations except maybe dead Ermor(AE or SG), for reasons that would only spark a dead horse debate

- Kel

Norfleet · #6 July 11th, 2004, 04:31 AM

Meh. Why the big fuss about Ermor? Plenty of nations spank Ermor easily.

Stormbinder · #7 July 11th, 2004, 07:25 AM

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Originally posted by Norfleet:
Meh. Why the big fuss about Ermor? Plenty of nations spank Ermor easily.

Clearly some people are always looking for the dead horse.

As for the favorite race - I've recently fall in love with Vanheim, great nation that plays quite differently from the rest. Before that it was Abyssia (main theme), Jotuns(Niefel theme) and Pythium.