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July 11th, 2004, 01:08 AM
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Re: Your favorite nations / themes -- and why! please participate!
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Originally posted by Schmoe:
Just out of curiousity, what is wrong with Caelum Return of the Raptors? They get good access to both Air and Death magic, two very strong schools, and the mages seem reasonably priced. It looks as though they could do quite well.
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They have no randoms, their upper-class mage and only (lousy)priest is capitol-only, and their earth magic is low-level and not, by default, capable of reaching the level needed to actually forge boots/hammers. They also lose out on national cold immunity, as the Raptors are not cold-immune and are harmed by the cold-3 dominion.
Plus it's just a general pain in the *** to be unable to build any kind of national priest outside of the capitol, and your only priest is rather expensive and isn't actually a very GOOD priest, to boot - at least the Elder is mobile thanks to trapezing, though.
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July 11th, 2004, 01:53 AM
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Re: Your favorite nations / themes -- and why! please participate!
I still experiment a lot but so far, I like Arco, Aby and Miasma the best.
I play Aby when I want a fast start via a blood nation (occasionally BF Ulm but mostly Aby). Small maps, blitzes, etc. Not a lot of micro, not a lot of re-scripting mages, etc. but still effective.
I play Miasma because I like the potential for tartarians and the Miasma effect helps me get to them and can otherwise be a nice MP tool. I also like Miasma because I think they are a bit of a challenge (compared to Aby and Arc, anyway), due to their, imo, abysmal national troops. Otoh, I love marshmasters. I probably play Miasma the most, of the three, since I feel like I haven't *quite* got my finger on them yet
I play Arco (mostly default but sometimes GE) when I want to do well and have tons of time to script mages, complicated communions, teleports,, excessive artifacting, etc. I don't play them defensively but I think more long term with them (large or underpopulated maps).
I don't really dislike any nations except maybe dead Ermor(AE or SG), for reasons that would only spark a dead horse debate
- Kel
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July 11th, 2004, 04:31 AM
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Re: Your favorite nations / themes -- and why! please participate!
Meh. Why the big fuss about Ermor? Plenty of nations spank Ermor easily.
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July 11th, 2004, 07:25 AM
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Re: Your favorite nations / themes -- and why! please participate!
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Originally posted by Norfleet:
Meh. Why the big fuss about Ermor? Plenty of nations spank Ermor easily.
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Clearly some people are always looking for the dead horse.
As for the favorite race - I've recently fall in love with Vanheim, great nation that plays quite differently from the rest. Before that it was Abyssia (main theme), Jotuns(Niefel theme) and Pythium.
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July 11th, 2004, 07:53 AM
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Re: Your favorite nations / themes -- and why! please participate!
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Originally posted by Stormbinder:
Clearly some people are always looking for the dead horse.
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Yes, well, let's not forget:
In Soviet Russia, dead horse beats you!
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July 11th, 2004, 10:44 AM
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Re: Your favorite nations / themes -- and why! please participate!
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Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:
Overall Id say it looks great. No real "zeros", and the default themes are generally ahead of the sub-themes. I think thats how the developers wanted it. And its rather an amazing achievment.
I know of alot of games with only 3 or 5 choices that got it so messed up that a poll like this would end up with nearly 100% all agreeing on one.
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Yes, I think this is very good.
No votes for CotS, which I find totally acceptable -- it is the 3rd theme, after all. None for BK, which does not surprise me -- I, however, am one of those people who draw "need for tweakage" conclusions from this.
Abysia's popularity surprises me too, although I voted for them myself -- and I would have asked "who voted for BoH??" (which I dislike) had Cohen not elaborated.
Of all the default themes, only Atlantis (which has no theme) seems hurting. Any feelings on this?
S&A got more votes than default -- hm.
I would also like to hear more from Arco players about why -- I have actually never finished or even got into an Arco game. Despite their having a very strong team and some of the best cost-effective mages in the game (mystics), I have found them to be just very unsexy, and never found them cool enough to "enjoy". Powerful, yes, but fun?
In this light, it is worthy to note that a very few number of people like their Favorites because of power -- rather more, because of fun; I would like to know what the Arco players think about this.
Anyhow, thanks much for all your feedback and participation!
I do hope that I can pull one conlcusion from this poll (not that it needed any corroboration...):
GREAT GAME, DEVELOPERS!!! NICE JOB!!!!
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July 11th, 2004, 12:05 PM
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Re: Your favorite nations / themes -- and why! please participate!
Well, I voted default Tien Chi (means air or sky in Chinese, I forgot which.) and default Pangaea, since both are FUN FUN FUN.
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