upkeep

The same can be said for you! And I'm sure you cost a bit more than 4gold a month to upkeep.

In all seriousness, Sea Trolls/Trolls are fine upkeepwise. There has to be a reason why you wouldn't use them every, single time. And the reason is that they require you to be on the offensive and/or in active attempt to destroy them by some means.

If you can't tell, I like Trolls of any flavoritity and use them often

[Sheap]

Personally I am terrified of trolls.

[NTJedi]

It would be nice if there was a list available where gamers could see the upkeep of all summoned units.
Or at least a list of which ones have zero upkeep.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by NTJedi:
It would be nice if there was a list available where gamers could see the upkeep of all summoned units.
Or at least a list of which ones have zero upkeep.

There *IS* one. Zen had a big list somewhere. You can probably get it from Arryn's server whose name eludes me at the moment. Or somewhere.

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by NTJedi:
It would be nice if there was a list available where gamers could see the upkeep of all summoned units.
Or at least a list of which ones have zero upkeep.

That's the Summoned Creature Quick Reference (SCQR).

A shorter Version is that the only summons that cost upkeep are both kinds of trolls, black hawks, and some of the things you get with crossbreeding.

[Boron]

Originally posted by Zen:
Trolls/Sea Trolls that have a liability? OMG! That shouldn't be!

While there are plenty of people who seem to think the cost is not worth the effect on Trolls or Sea Trolls, thare are another Category of people who think that with their upkeep they disallow certain strategies (ever notice how well Trolls rebuild castle walls?) and make you take a posture if you wish to use them (offensive). While it may be a little harsh it's still managable.

you're just kidding or ?
what's so special with trolls / sea trolls ?
only special thing is the 1 water gem / turn via the sea troll king . if they are upkeepfree perhaps this should be altered.
but otherwise ?
for 45water/earthgems you get 15 trolls + 1 king . the trolls themselves are not very strong ihmo .
for 30 death you get 20 wights e.g. which are far stronger .
the kings are nice but they can't summon allies and i think aren't too good sc's either so all thems pretty ok to me . a airqueen e.g. which could summon allies 10 turns should easily beat a troll king with his 15 trolls .

and best thing it would give water magic some amphibian summons . i always read ppl complaining water magic is too weak . upkeepfree sea trolls would enchance it quite ihmo .
but i can't see why a troll king with his 15 trolls is better than e.g. 20 wights + 1 bane lord which has comparable costs : 40 death compared to 45 earth/water

You would know better than I.