OberFuhrer, the Hobourg Special Hero!!!

[reverend]

I thought the uncensored Version of RtCW was forbidden? (uncensored = not only blood, but also the original textures for swastikas).

While we're on it, another interesting tidbit for non-Europeans :
There are no license plates with SS, NS, KZ or HJ in Germany. Did I leave some out?


PS: Erstaunlich wieviele Deutsche bei so einem Thema aus der Versenkung gekrochen kommen.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by reverend:
I thought the uncensored Version of RtCW was forbidden? (uncensored = not only blood, but also the original textures for swastikas).

I can't imagine why...given that the objective of all the Wolfensteins has never been to glorify Nazis, but instead to caricature and parody them while blowing them away in ever-increasing numbers. There's a singular elegance to choosing Nazis to be your villains, since you won't get anyone complaining about your treatment of them in the game.

[ July 14, 2004, 19:26: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

[Chazar]

Originally posted by reverend:

PS: Erstaunlich wieviele Deutsche bei so einem Thema aus der Versenkung gekrochen kommen.

(translates to: surprising how many germans reply to this topic.)

Sure! I myself just clicked the topic because I was irritated about the "Fuhrer"-title of the thread within the Dom2 context...

But I guess that the non-gemans have a point here: I cant help but feel ashamed when I read "Führer" somehow, although I'm much to young to be connected with that time! Hence it is sort of wrong to feel ashamed...

I mean its quite the same with a lot of military stuff as well: I was quite surprised when I learnt of british student Groups exercising on warships over the weekends. Its a concept that would be unimaginable in germany today...

[Karacan]

Originally posted by Norfleet:
I can't imagine why...given that the objective of all the Wolfensteins has never been to glorify Nazis, but instead to caricature and parody them while blowing them away in ever-increasing numbers. There's a singular elegance to choosing Nazis to be your villains, since you won't get anyone complaining about your treatment of them in the game.

The game Bloodrayne is completely Banned in Germany, since it's all about blood and Nazis - you're playing a half-vampire bringing down several Nazi-installations. It's a very satisfying game, and I for one find it rather sad that german "violent" videogame players are deprived of humanoid victims I for one have a hard time feeling some kind of remorse for. Good thing I have english native friends.

However, I have to say that Oberführer in no way feels offensive to me, as I didn't associate it with anything Nazi-german at all - but perhaps that's because I grew up with Star Wars and Warhammer 40K...

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Karacan:
The game Bloodrayne is completely Banned in Germany, since it's all about blood and Nazis - you're playing a half-vampire bringing down several Nazi-installations. It's a very satisfying game, and I for one find it rather sad that german "violent" videogame players are deprived of humanoid victims I for one have a hard time feeling some kind of remorse for. Good thing I have english native friends.

I entirely blame this on the Allies. After the war, it seems a campaign of systematic spinectomy was performed upon the German people. This is truly sad and deplorable, and I personally find it to be reprehensible. I feel for you. I really do. How awful it must be, to be filled with this distaste for Nazism, yet be unable to blow them away in video games.

[PrinzMegaherz]

I entirely blame this on the Allies. After the war, it seems a campaign of systematic spinectomy was performed upon the German people. This is truly sad and deplorable, and I personally find it to be reprehensible. I feel for you. I really do. How awful it must be, to be filled with this distaste for Nazism, yet be unable to blow them away in video games.

Finally someone who understands my feelings . Seriously, you would not believe what strange ideas game developers have to make their games match german laws. In the old C&C games all human soldiers were exchanged with androids and red blood became black oil. In case of RTCW you actually fight the order of the wulf or something like that.

Ah, by the way, did I mention that killed enemies/hostages in CS dont die, they just sit down and stay there for the rest of the round? Jesus!

[Cainehill]

Originally posted by Norfleet:

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Originally posted by Karacan:
The game Bloodrayne is completely Banned in Germany, since it's all about blood and Nazis - you're playing a half-vampire bringing down several Nazi-installations. It's a very satisfying game, and I for one find it rather sad that german "violent" videogame players are deprived of humanoid victims I for one have a hard time feeling some kind of remorse for. Good thing I have english native friends.

I entirely blame this on the Allies. After the war, it seems a campaign of systematic spinectomy was performed upon the German people. This is truly sad and deplorable, and I personally find it to be reprehensible. I feel for you. I really do. How awful it must be, to be filled with this distaste for Nazism, yet be unable to blow them away in video games.

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Not sure you can blame it on the Allies, given that Japan didn't wind up the same way.