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July 19th, 2004, 09:00 AM
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Civilization III (PC) - Didn't like II, not sure why, just thought it was a little repetative. III I like, but only really play it with mods (esp. DyP).
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I never got why people hated Civ 3. So many excellent advances. Workers instead of settlers, the whole culture thing was done well. UU's were pretty nice. I can't really see where the game lacks when compared to Civ2. Some complained about the corruption system, but once you knew what you were doing that wasn't hard to manage.
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July 19th, 2004, 09:41 AM
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quote: Civilization III (PC) - Didn't like II, not sure why, just thought it was a little repetative. III I like, but only really play it with mods (esp. DyP).
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I never got why people hated Civ 3. So many excellent advances. Workers instead of settlers, the whole culture thing was done well. UU's were pretty nice. I can't really see where the game lacks when compared to Civ2. Some complained about the corruption system, but once you knew what you were doing that wasn't hard to manage. I like Civ III, but I think Alpha Centauri was better in many ways. Civ III has a good AI, and that helps a lot. But Alpha Centauri had atmosphere; it had terraforming, 3D landscape, nukes that made a difference, custom units, sea cities and potentially huge cities. Also, it had the best quotes
So all in all, I think perhaps Alpha Centauri may have been the best non-free game I have ever played.
Another fond memory is Worms I + II (after which they lost it.) and scorched earth. Wizardry 8, Might and Magic 6+7, and recently, UT2004. The Longest Journey, Siberia, Broken Sword 3 and other adventure games.
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July 19th, 2004, 10:06 AM
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Another fond memory is ... Siberia ...
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I've been considering Syberia. What can you tell me about it?
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July 19th, 2004, 11:02 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Esben Mose Hansen:
Another fond memory is ... Siberia ...
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I've been considering Syberia. What can you tell me about it? buy it )
Seriously, it is a atmospheric and extremely beautiful game. It is of the point-and-click puzzle solving Category. I found the puzzle diffuculty mostly satsfying, though there are a few I found more bothersome than interesting. The storyline is very good and engaging. It is not completely unlike The Longest Journey.
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July 19th, 2004, 11:48 AM
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Morrowind is *older* than Gothic 2 (and perhaps Gothic). It's graphics were cutting-edge when the game came out, and are not shabby even by today's standards, almost 3 years later. Stop to consider that Diablo 2 had woefully-obsolete graphics when *it* was released, and huge numbers of players still play the game today. Ditto JA2.
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hm i always thought that gothic 1 is older than morrowind and gothic 2 came out only about 1/2 year after morrowind .
ihmo gothic 1 had already an almost as good graphic as morrowind and the gothic 2 graphic is much better .
ja 2 is one of my alltime favourites too .
another one is starcraft .
both have crappy graphics but graphics but graphics don't play a major role for me .
but in first person 3d games like morrowind and gothic they matter .
unfortunately i played gothic 2 before morrowind and then i was disappointed .
i don't know why but i don't like the morrowind graphic. i still play counterstrike which has a worse graphic than morrowind but there i don't care .
it is just a personal disliking for morrowind don't know why .
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July 19th, 2004, 12:40 PM
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Morrowind I didnt like nearly as well as Daggerfall. I was very dissapointed
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Why? People keep saying they disliked the game, but they decline to say *what* it is about the game they didn't like (besides the graphics load on a computer, which is a non-issue with today's Boards). Sorry.
It seemed to me, like NWN, to be a world done without love. (This angered me even more in NWN, the makers of which having had really impressed me elsewhere.)
Despite being full of *things*, it seemed empty and hollow. (Think Heidegger's Zuhandenheit vs. Vorhandenheit here.)
This feeling was exacerbated in my eyes by an incredibly high degree of means-ends-functionality: almost nothing was there for its own sake, either as a pleasure or a joke or whatever. The NPCs seemed to me to be mere vessels to be robbed, killed, persuaded or from whom one could receive a quest (depending on your char type). The lack of feeling of immersion annoyed me so much that I had to stop somewhere in the middle of that big city whose name escapes me. Small things bothered me: I hated being greeted everywhere as "Outlander", even when disguised with that special helmet you got from one of those quests somewhere else.
I really liked the good system (nice classlessness, nicely open-ended); all in all, it was a good idea which was also implemented halfway decently, but one which completely lacked magic and feeling for me.
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July 20th, 2004, 01:14 AM
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Re: OT - your fav games
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quote: Originally posted by Arryn:
quote: Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:
Morrowind I didnt like nearly as well as Daggerfall. I was very dissapointed
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Why? People keep saying they disliked the game, but they decline to say *what* it is about the game they didn't like (besides the graphics load on a computer, which is a non-issue with today's Boards). Sorry.
It seemed to me, like NWN, to be a world done without love. (This angered me even more in NWN, the makers of which having had really impressed me elsewhere.)
Despite being full of *things*, it seemed empty and hollow. (Think Heidegger's Zuhandenheit vs. Vorhandenheit here.)
This feeling was exacerbated in my eyes by an incredibly high degree of means-ends-functionality: almost nothing was there for its own sake, either as a pleasure or a joke or whatever. The NPCs seemed to me to be mere vessels to be robbed, killed, persuaded or from whom one could receive a quest (depending on your char type). The lack of feeling of immersion annoyed me so much that I had to stop somewhere in the middle of that big city whose name escapes me. Small things bothered me: I hated being greeted everywhere as "Outlander", even when disguised with that special helmet you got from one of those quests somewhere else.
I really liked the good system (nice classlessness, nicely open-ended); all in all, it was a good idea which was also implemented halfway decently, but one which completely lacked magic and feeling for me. yeah in neverwinter nights the story is only in parts nice . i liked the stories of your henchmen and parts of the main story but especially the first chapter in neverwinter nights i didn't like .
in the addition disks the story became better ihmo .
especially in the second one hordes from underdark the ingamevideos for important parts of the story were nice .
and the new special classes + epic chars until lvl 40 are nice .
i like the d&d rules system and it is well implemented in neverwinter nights .
but i didn't get as addicted with nwn as with e.g. diablo . bg 2 had the much nicer story too .
and another problem is that it is much too easy with certain characters .
i played a fighter / weaponmaster with 2 kukris .
i sharpened both by the smith in hordes from underdark and well it was really boring .
6 attacks / turn with critcal hit from 10-20 .
everything non critical immune got a critical hit almost every 2nd attack and so 100-150 damage . but even special critical immune monsters like the undead dragon died very quick .
so it is really too easy but balance seems to be very hard for roleplaygames in general .
in gothic 2 it was the same once you were familiar with the fighting system and knew what skills / attributes are important it was too easy too . i didn't need to use a single heal potion with any of the 6 dragons which disappointed me totally . they were integrated very atmospherically as great evils in the story but unfortunately they were easier to kill than 4 eliteorks 
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