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August 3rd, 2004, 11:07 AM
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Re: Draconian Mod Under construction
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Originally posted by Boron:
liga could you please share how you come to 6 , 15 and 20 times exactly ?
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yes, the possible permutations between N objects of which n are in position A and (N-n) are in position B are
N! / ( n! * ( N-n)! )
so, we have N = 6
for 5+ n = 5 and N-n = 1 so 6! / (5! * 1!) = 6
for 4+ n = 4 and N-n = 2 so 6! / (4! * 2!) = 15
for 3+ n = 3 and N-n = 3 so 6! / (3! * 3!) = 20
bye bye
Liga
BTW. about the mod ... it seems great! I hope to have the possibility to play it soon!
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August 3rd, 2004, 06:22 PM
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Re: Draconian Mod Under construction
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Originally posted by liga:
quote: Originally posted by Boron:
liga could you please share how you come to 6 , 15 and 20 times exactly ?
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yes, the possible permutations between N objects of which n are in position A and (N-n) are in position B are
N! / ( n! * ( N-n)! )
so, we have N = 6
for 5+ n = 5 and N-n = 1 so 6! / (5! * 1!) = 6
for 4+ n = 4 and N-n = 2 so 6! / (4! * 2!) = 15
for 3+ n = 3 and N-n = 3 so 6! / (3! * 3!) = 20
bye bye
Liga
BTW. about the mod ... it seems great! I hope to have the possibility to play it soon! ok thnx . so you chose this formula
but i am unsure if you may only chose this formula or if you have to include something else .
because for 5+ of 1 path i think there should be 12 possible solutions :
AAAAAW , AAAAAE , AAAAAF , WWWWWA , WWWWWE , WWWWWF , EEEEEW , EEEEEA , EEEEEF , FFFFFA , FFFFFW , FFFFFE .
so 12 not 6 possible permutations right ?
i am unsure which formula(s) to use to get this outcome .
for 5+ it is easy to find it out because you can do the 12 permutations manually .
but for 3+ etc. you need a formula .
i forgot the permutations but i think you may not use your formula because this way you miss 6 possible permutations for 5+ example .
but i don't find a formula for this now so please tell me if i made a fault again or when you found a new one 
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August 3rd, 2004, 06:32 PM
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Re: Draconian Mod Under construction
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August 3rd, 2004, 08:49 PM
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Re: Draconian Mod Under construction
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Originally posted by Boron:
your mod seems so far very advanced do you already have a date when you plan to publish the beta ?
and do you draw the unit animations yourself or is it e.g. possible to copy some from aow 2 sm or something similiar ?
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I'm afraid I can't put a specific beta release date :/ ....I make a little here and there on the mod due to the time I got... I still need nation preferences scale and description on the units, nation description.
The animation (the sprites) in first round gonna be cut, paste and recolouring of existing units to cut down the release date magnificent.
best regards
Thilock
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August 3rd, 2004, 10:53 PM
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Re: Draconian Mod Under construction
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Originally posted by Thilock_Dominus:
quote: Originally posted by Boron:
your mod seems so far very advanced do you already have a date when you plan to publish the beta ?
and do you draw the unit animations yourself or is it e.g. possible to copy some from aow 2 sm or something similiar ?
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I'm afraid I can't put a specific beta release date :/ ....I make a little here and there on the mod due to the time I got... I still need nation preferences scale and description on the units, nation description.
The animation (the sprites) in first round gonna be cut, paste and recolouring of existing units to cut down the release date magnificent.
best regards
Thilock hm if you don't modify any sprites for the beta ?
then you can take all your time for the sprites and the betaUsers can already give feedback on the units 
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August 4th, 2004, 06:00 AM
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Re: Draconian Mod Under construction
It only takes a couple of minuts to cut,paste and recolouring, so I think I'll just make'em.
Here is a try on the draconian Elder:
The body from C'tis, wings from the original Draconian, recolouring the dancers weapon and tadaaa a draconian Elder
Is it this what you had in mind how the draconian will looks like?
My Idea on how to split the draconian races into diffrent colours:
Draconian Mages and regular draconians: Green skin colour
Temple Draconians: White Skin Colours
Pyro draconians: Red Skin colour
Storm draconians: Light Blue Skin colour
Scout unit : Black Skin colour
Or does it becomes to confusing?
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August 4th, 2004, 09:28 AM
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Re: Draconian Mod Under construction
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Originally posted by Boron:
ok thnx . so you chose this formula
but i am unsure if you may only chose this formula or if you have to include something else .
because for 5+ of 1 path i think there should be 12 possible solutions :
AAAAAW , AAAAAE , AAAAAF , WWWWWA , WWWWWE , WWWWWF , EEEEEW , EEEEEA , EEEEEF , FFFFFA , FFFFFW , FFFFFE .
so 12 not 6 possible permutations right ?
i am unsure which formula(s) to use to get this outcome .
for 5+ it is easy to find it out because you can do the 12 permutations manually .
but for 3+ etc. you need a formula .
i forgot the permutations but i think you may not use your formula because this way you miss 6 possible permutations for 5+ example .
but i don't find a formula for this now so please tell me if i made a fault again or when you found a new one
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This formula is ofr the permutaion once you have fixed your results ...
so, if you decide that you want a 5 Air 1 Everythnig but air, you (as you post in your first message) have a probability of 1/4 ^ 5 * 3/4.
But that result is without permutation becouse you can have 6 ways to get a AAAAAAR and that are
AAAAAAR AAAARA AAARAA AARAAA ARAAAA RAAAAA
of course if yiu are interessed in a generic (not specific) 5 level mage you have to multilply that possibility by four
To prove that that is true ... if you want a 5 Air 1 something else you have 3 (R = E,F,W) possibility for each of the 6 permutaions so are 18 possibility for a total of 4 ^ 6
18 / 4096 = 0.00439453125
that is exactly the same number you got form
1/4 ^ 5 * 3/4 * 6
good play
Liga
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