bitter pill to swallow

[Inigo Montoya]

Originally posted by Cheezeninja:

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Originally posted by Arryn:

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Originally posted by Cheezeninja:
I thought immortal commanders were supposed to never retreat in positive dominion?

Where'd you get that silly idea? The only thing special about immortals in friendly dom is that if they die they pop back up the next turn in your capital, saving you many turns of having to pray for your god to resurrect (which is what happens if your immortal dies outside of friendly dom).

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I believe i got it from the board actually, since i can't remember any other hard source of that information. I have seen it in action more than once, where an immortal commander would stick around even after all troops had retreated because he was in positive dominion.

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I think this is also a tip that is displayed while awaiting turn generation.

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by Arryn:
I've seen immortals retreat in friendly dom. If this is a bug, it's been around a while.

Immortal units will retreat while in friendly dominion. Immortal commanders are not supposed to. An easy way to test this is to take your starting wraith centurion with Soul Gate, and have all your troops killed off by independents. The centurion will not rout, and will fight to the death.

[Cheezeninja]

aha! I knew i saw it somewhere. Thanks for relieving that little itch at the back of my mind.

[ July 22, 2004, 18:27: Message edited by: Cheezeninja ]

[Arryn]

Originally posted by Inigo Montoya:
I think this is also a tip that is displayed while awaiting turn generation.

According to the compendium of tips at Sunray's site, you're correct (and I'm wrong). Be that as it may, I've seen it happen, so there's a bug somewhere that can crop up.

[Arryn]

Originally posted by Graeme Dice:
Immortal commanders are not supposed to.

Heh. "Not supposed to" and "never do" are not quite the same thing. Remind me to save a game file the next time it happens to me, so I can send it to IW for them to bugfix ... eventually.

[Nagot Gick Fel]

Originally posted by Arryn:
According to the compendium of tips at Sunray's site, you're correct (and I'm wrong). Be that as it may, I've seen it happen, so there's a bug somewhere that can crop up.

It's not a bug. Unlike other commanders, immortals won't retreat when all their troops are killed, or once a leader is killed and they're part of a 'leaders only' army. They may still retreat when the battle Lasts long enough to reach the 'autorout' phase - a feature that's been implemented to prevent unending battles.

[NTJedi]

Originally posted by Merry Jolkar:
Bottom line, she was about to win the war, when she retreated.

More likely she was about to win this battle when she retreated. If your capital is completely surrounded by enemy controlled provinces... it's unlikely you are about to win a war. (possible but unlikely)