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Old July 27th, 2004, 02:32 PM
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Default Re: Lab Secrets

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Originally posted by Endoperez:
Astral is not recommended for Mind Duel, but it's your sandbox...

If you are for big amounts of armor-negating damage without possiblity to use astral SCs, like fighting versus a 9S sphinx, give your Niefel Jarl Constr. 6 item Gate Cleaver. 29 points of an. damage, plus the strength...
how are the odds of hitting ? 29 AN dam sound really cool but it has att / def -1 .
wraith sword has att +2 def +3 .
a bane lord has basic attack / def 14 / 14
hm a niefel jarl has att 12 def 16 .
hm with water 9 bless you have than the following : i don't take other items than weapons and blessing into considering because a niefel jarl has the same slots as a bane lord so they can both have the same .
bane lord att of 16 vs initial defense of 19 via water bless for the niefels .
other way round att 11 vs 17 def .

the niefel jarl though can cast quickness + gets quickness from bless that stacks up to 150% quickness or ?
so 2,5 attacks per turn .

if the niefel jarl though gets hit first and fatigues his att / def skill decreases .

now scenario 2 : niefel jarl vs wraith lord :
question first : how is soul vortex calculated ? which att / def values does it have because a wraith lord can cast it without buffing .

further the wraith lord has 16/16 att def .
so with same equipment as before :
bane lord vs niefel : 18 att vs 19 def .
niefel vs bane lord : 11 att vs 19 def .

now the niefel has very poor odds of hitting the bane lord . further the wraith lord has a good chance to make a life drain hit in the first combat round already either via soul vortex or via his 1 / 2 combat attacks more likely 2 with boots of quickness .
this further reduces the att value of the niefel and so he has almost no chance to hit the wraith lord .

i didn't like jotun very much but i got an idea now and will try it out :
instead of earth or nature blessing w9 f10 bless : +5 attack that should give wohoo
a duskdagger will work wonders furthermore
+ give room for a shied .
now a niefel jarl has 19 attack vs 19 def of the wraith lord .
as shields following seem very cheap + cool to me :
lucky coin or eye shield
so wraith lord has 18 att vs 23 def .

what do you think ? could this be worth trying out ?
my main concern is though :
how do you deal with afflictions ?
jotun niefels seem to cry after GoH .
in order to get f10w9 you have to take very lousy scales though and you have bad researchers . con 6 seems most urgent early goal . goh is very expensive . costs :
much luck : every 16th gygia will get nature 3 .
if you get such one : 10 gems for thistle mace .
then 40 gems for thorn staff .
goh 40 additional costs .

so minimum gem costs 90 nature gems .
with goh i guess niefel jarls are really frightening sc's and because they only cost money very great .
but how do you get 90+ nature gems as quick as possible and what do you do against dispelling ?

another "solution" might be the chalice : your special hag hero has n2s2 so only 1 nature needed to forge that . but not easy to achieve either . + your niefels need to be all in the same province to get healed from the chalice .

third but not good solution in my eyes : summoning faery queens . 1 faery queen needs unfortunately 90+ death gems to summon as with GoH .

a final question : do you have a mr-resistance throw against the eye shield or not ?
so do you lose an eye every time you hit the wearer or not ?
if you use 2 eye shields do you get immediately blind or do they not stack ?
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