OT: Jibjab, Politics, the Big Bang and more!

[Gandalf Parker]

Originally posted by Molog:
I don't know, man. With those damn LIE-beral media we might see another DEMON-c-RAT KKKlinton as president.

Yeah I sure wouldnt want to return to those comfortable times when my biggest concern was whether the prez lied about getting some on the side. Between Bush and Arnold my life is MUCH more "interesting" on a daily basis now.

-- Now that sex is ok to talk about I guess the new social rule is that politics, religion, and operating systems are not topics for polite company.

[NTJedi]

Well Kerry has been boasting about providing healthcare for every citizen in America. That screams economic nightmare because the cost will be enormous....... and guess who's going to pay for it.

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by NTJedi:
Well Kerry has been boasting about providing healthcare for every citizen in America. That screams economic nightmare because the cost will be enormous....... and guess who's going to pay for it.

Yes, healthcare costs a lot, but it costs a lot regardless of whether the government collects taxes to pay for it, or the people pay for it individually. There's also the fact that national healthcare systems such as the Canadian one provide the same services for 57% of the cost.

[NTJedi]

I'm not fond of the idea of paying healthcare and medication costs for the lazy people in the USA which just don't want to work or earn money decently. Government controlling our entire healthcare would do this.
Giving government even more power/control is not the answer.

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by NTJedi:
I'm not fond of the idea of paying healthcare and medication costs for the lazy people in the USA which just don't want to work or earn money decently.

If you don't have a moral problem with not providing health care to everyone, and hence allowing them to suffer and die from preventable causes, then there's not much I could ever say to convince you otherwise.

[Huzurdaddi]

There's also the fact that national healthcare systems such as the Canadian one provide the same services for 57% of the cost.

I guess you have never tried both services personally. They are not at all comparable. Canadian health care sucks.

*IF* you can afford US health care it is far superior. Period.

[NTJedi]

Originally posted by Graeme Dice:
If you don't have a moral problem with not providing health care to everyone, and hence allowing them to suffer and die from preventable causes, then there's not much I could ever say to convince you otherwise.

That's not what I said... I will write with a different explanation.
Providing complete healthcare for all citizens will give more reasons for lazy people not to work and people doing illegal actions to continue.

As far as any moral problems... John Kerry is unapologetically pro-abortion. But as a Catholic, he is required to be personally opposed to the idea.

[ July 26, 2004, 19:52: Message edited by: NTJedi ]