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Old July 26th, 2004, 10:36 PM
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Default Re: OT: Jibjab, Politics, the Big Bang and more!

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Originally posted by NTJedi:
That's wrong... take a look at how much switzerland is paying for this government healthcare.
Why don't you take a look at Canada, where better health care than what is available in the U.S. (30th in the world vs. 38th), costs 57% as much per person.

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Another bad reason for government healthcare is we would never be able to go back.
Why would you want to go back?

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So what you're suggesting is why just stop at U.S citizens?? Lets provide a Universal HealthCare for all countries including illegal aliens within our own. We can't just let them rot either... right?
If they pay American taxes, or are U.S. citizens, then the American government should support them. Your strawman about other countries is meaningless, since they are not U.S. taxpayers or citizens.

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]Lets see... there are millions without any healthcare which would be going to the hospitals if they could...
This is unarguably good.
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whether or not its needed.
This is complete and utter bull****. Doctors are perfectly capable of not spending money on people that don't need treatment. People, even the poor who you seem to despise, despite claiming to be a member of the lower class, have ethics. People don't purposefully

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Currently X amount of people are going to the hospitals everyday.
With a government healthcare it would be X amount of people going to the hospitals PLUS Y amount of people also going which couldn't afford this before. Less beds/rooms available... less medical supplies... because of Y amount of people also going.
I can't believe that you are seriously making an argument that it's a _good_ thing that people are going without medical treatment.

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Will people start giving more blood with the new healthcare system to help provide the supplies needed for Y amount of people?? Take a guess!
I don't have to guess. The blood supply in Canada is completely voluntary, Canadian Blood Services is a government agency that is responsible for collecting blood, and guess what, we have adequate, though sometimes low blood supplies just like the U.S.
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