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Stormbinder · #1 July 29th, 2004, 01:54 AM

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Originally posted by Norfleet:
I am not a "fictional characterization".

Of course you are. You're nothing more than a teenager living in your parents house.

Either that, or perhaps he is indeed old and senile, as he claim he is. It becomes hard to distinquish the immaturity level due to very young and very old age.

But all his bizzare stories about his very own T34 that he drives around, and his duels with LAWS and guns on the highways, sugest very immature person who can not be taken seriosly. Although he clearly do not reilize it himself, thinking that he sounds cool and tough.

PrinzMegaherz · #2 July 29th, 2004, 01:58 AM

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That's where you turn to the Bible and read where only mankind is referred to as having a soul. When that soul is created is only known by God therefore saying abortion is okay could get someone into big trouble during judgment day.

I find the idea that god is watching us every step of our lives taking notes rather amusing. I mean why should he?

Lets assume you knew the position of every piece of matter that exists, had a complete understanding of all physical laws, and the brainpower to calculate everything (all 3 things which I assume the christian god would have), then you would know the outcome of ones live before he would even be born. So why would god create souls for people he already knows are going to burn in hell?

It is my personal understanding that we are the ones who judge ourselfes after live. Maybe we will see got and understand what we did wrong and what was right, the joy for the good things being heaven and the despise for the bad things being hell.
In any case, doing something not because you fear god could punish you is like cheating. I mean, translate it in other words: I would do it if there was no god. And I think that says everything about your personality.
Goodness is something you do from your own free will, and not because you are forced to.

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Norfleet · #3 July 29th, 2004, 02:04 AM

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Originally posted by Stormbinder:
But all his bizzare stories about his very own T34 that he drives around

You want me to show you a site you can buy some of this stuff?

http://www.coldwarremarketing.com/

Go get your own. They're not THAT hard to get, you know.

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and his duels with LAWS and guns on the highways

I think you may have greatly exaggerated the magnitude of the actual shootout. It doesn't work that way in real life. Too many movies for you, Storm.

Norfleet · #4 July 29th, 2004, 02:07 AM

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Originally posted by PrinzMegaherz:
Lets assume you knew the position of every piece of matter that exists, had a complete understanding of all physical laws, and the brainpower to calculate everything (all 3 things which I assume the christian god would have), then you would know the outcome of ones live before he would even be born. So why would god create souls for people he already knows are going to burn in hell?

Because it's funny? Let's face it: If you were an all-powerful being with such capabilities, why would you bother creating the universe at all, if not for the sheer entertainment value involved in doing so? Clearly, if there's a God, he's a very bored individual with too much time on his hands. I mean, hell, look at me. I'm just a retired old coot, and I'm bored and have too much time on my hands. What must it be like to be immortal and all-powerful, living for all eternity? Must be damn boring. I'd sure do something whacky like creating a universe or two.

If God exists, the platypus is proof that he has a sense of humor.

Cainehill · #5 July 29th, 2004, 02:12 AM

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Even if there is only a .0000000001% chance that God does exist is more then enough reason to do what's right or risk burning in Hell eternally.

If there was a Dog who condemned people to eternal damnation in fire for not worshiping him, that Dog doesn't deserve to be worshipped.

He'd be a sadist of the worst non-consensual kind, insane, and malicious. Of course, the Bible does give some supporting evidence.

After all - a being who could design and create all the things in the universe singlehandedly would, beyond all doubt or question, be a genius of divine magnitude.

On a good day, his finest creations might well be perfection itself, or damn near. And the finest of these near perfect creations, these ... angels, might see that his creator, his overlord, was in fact a certifiable pathological monster, and rebel against him.

Lucifer, anyone?

(And anyone who both believes hir Bible to be the exact holy writ of Dog, _and_ doesn't believe God to be a monster, hasn't read very carefully. Infants slaughtered by divine decree, god approving of children being torn into pieces for mocking one of his holy prophets (one of the _very_ few who supposed was "ascended" directly into heaven without having to die first) Even the Divine Lottery - if you were born in ... Italy, you go to heaven. If you were born in .. China - hell. If you had a priest at your deathbed - heaven. If you didn't - hell. If (back in the old day) you had enough lambs to sacrifice - heaven. Too poor to own lambs? Hell.)

PrinzMegaherz · #6 July 29th, 2004, 02:20 AM

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Because it's funny? Let's face it: If you were an all-powerful being with such capabilities, why would you bother creating the universe at all, if not for the sheer entertainment value involved in doing so? Clearly, if there's a God, he's a very bored individual with too much time on his hands. I mean, hell, look at me. I'm just a retired old coot, and I'm bored and have too much time on my hands. What must it be like to be immortal and all-powerful, living for all eternity? Must be damn boring. I'd sure do something whacky like creating a universe or two.

If God exists, the platypus is proof that he has a sense of humor.

Getting bored? That would suggest that god is actually sentient in a human way. It is easy to imagine god as an elderly man with a long beard, so we can actually understand him. But maybe got is much more abstract than we can imagine. Maybe "god" is just a mathematical term that defines the laws of nature. Or maybe god is the complete soulmatter of every living being, including you and me?

Stormbinder · #7 July 29th, 2004, 02:22 AM

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Originally posted by Norfleet:

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But all his bizzare stories about his very own T34 that he drives around

You want me to show you a site you can buy some of this stuff?

http://www.coldwarremarketing.com/

Go get your own. They're not THAT hard to get, you know.

No thanks. Why don't you post picture of YOU on top of your tank instead, in your undeground bunker?

That would be at least *some* proof to your lunatic claims.

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and his duels with LAWS and guns on the highways

I think you may have greatly exaggerated the magnitude of the actual shootout. It doesn't work that way in real life. Too many movies for you, Storm. [/QB]

I am just repeating you own words silly, in case you have forgoten already.

You said you have used LAWS weapons to blown up cars with some unknown dudes on the highway, who were shooting at you with their automatic weapons for no apparent reason. Perhaps too much Holywood did influenced your unstable mind, but I have no way of telling.

[ July 29, 2004, 01:26: Message edited by: Stormbinder ]