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Old July 29th, 2004, 09:31 PM
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is that really for hitting ?
Yes. A unit can get quite a lot of experience in just one battle, if it does a lot of fighting (scoring hits).
strange .
in every rpg i know you only get xp for KILLING units not hitting them .
just look at diablo 2 e.g.
if you hit baal 1 million times with fists for fun but don't kill him you still get no exp.

so really amazed that dominions should be the only fantasy game so far where this is not the case .
afaik no other fantasy game rewards you for just hitting someone and not killing him.
seems like a logical bug
did the developers say that or is there perhaps any kind of misunderstanding fault in it ?

really amazed if this is really true
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Speaking of...

I've actually been writing a .. not a newbie-guide per se. Cause there are a couple of good tutorials that explain game basics. But what I consider a mid-level strategy guide. It covers some of the nuances of the game which are not apparent to a newer player. Take a look at tell me what you think:

http://benatar.snurgle.org:8080/~quinn/guide.html

Obviously still a work in progress. Comments are welcome and appreciated!
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Old July 29th, 2004, 09:47 PM
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starting to read now .

finished chapter 1 lol

i like that chart
Early Game Mid Game Late Game
Blitz Strong Medium Weak
Balance Medium Medium Medium
Turtle Weak Medium Strong

you could add a description with map sizes and state that blitz strats are good to use at small ( - 100 provinces ) maps , while turtle strat is especially a good idea for faerun .
further you could include the hint if you chose to blitz attack you have to have in mind that if your enemy plays turtle but right guesses movement of your main army if you aren't ´prepared for that you are screwed too .
especially a vq is hard to come by for most nations in the first 20 turns .
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Yeah, great point boron. Also after reading this thread I'll need to add in a section on unit experience, leveling, and heroic abilities.
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Yeah, great point boron. Also after reading this thread I'll need to add in a section on unit experience, leveling, and heroic abilities.
therefore you could just say : read ligas manual addendum
or make a new guide .

otherwise it will get too long .
i think you should make for each major chapter a new site / guide

5 guides 4 pages each are much easier to read than 1 guide 20 pages .
it is a phsychological trick but true . at least for me .

so far nice work .
when i finished reading it i will let you know my opinion if i think you could somewhere be more specific
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really amazed if this is really true
Get over it. You have to learn to accept that Dom 2 is not Diablo or any/all other games.

Frankly, the idea that you only get experience for killing is stupid, and it leads to game play abuses. First, in the real world, you learn by doing. If you were practicing martial arts, or marksmanship, or whatever, you do really learn by trying to hit an opponent. If you only learned by defeating them, no one would ever learn anything, because beginners could never defeat experts. As for the gameplay abuses, it's not fair that one character gets all the XPs because they were lucky enough (or in MP, aggressive/sneaky enough) to land the Last blow, regardless of whether someone else did 99% of the work to kill the target. Which was one of the things I liked about the SWG MMORPG: you got XPs proportionally based on your share of the damage that was inflicted when you gang-banged an enemy.
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in every rpg i know you only get xp for KILLING units not hitting them .
Which is the single largest problem with Fantasy based strategy games like AOW. There you have to do silly things like save weakened units for your heroes to kill so that you get the most benefit out of the fight.
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