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August 3rd, 2004, 02:14 AM
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Re: Underestimate the AI: Reap the consequences.
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Originally posted by Norfleet:
[QB]Note also how, if left up to the AI, your pretender will be allowed to cast spells until it faints from exhaustion....but the AI's pretender won't do this: You can easily witness the AI's pretender casting its spells, and then ATTACKING YOU.
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I assume that you can actually provide an example of this, since anybody who isn't trying to mislead new players won't have seen this behaviour.
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August 3rd, 2004, 02:41 AM
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Re: Underestimate the AI: Reap the consequences.
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Originally posted by Graeme Dice:
I assume that you can actually provide an example of this, since anybody who isn't trying to mislead new players won't have seen this behaviour.
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You mean other than the fact that I've seen it happen before? I don't exactly play a lot of SP anymore, you know, but you can definitely see it happen, which clearly indicates the AI isn't just set on default orders, and *IS* actually making decisions. What exactly do you want as an example? A screenshot? Because I can hardly go around posting my MP turns anywhere, since they'd be passworded and unreadable.
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August 3rd, 2004, 02:47 AM
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Re: Underestimate the AI: Reap the consequences.
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Originally posted by Alexi:
it wouldn't make sense to program two seperate combat algorythms for the human players and the AI controlled players. Dominions is all about role playing accuracy. And as far as I can see, there's no sense in one army behaving differently then another simply because it's controlled by the computer.
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Yeap, that is absolutely correct. The only possible very rare exception is the topic of this very thread, as I said myself earlier. And that had nothing to do with choosing of which spells to cast. Accursing developers of malicious intend to secretly screw the player by forcing him to use "bad" spell-selecting algoritm, while strategic AI got to use the differnt "uber" spell selecting algoritm is very... errr... strange. 
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August 3rd, 2004, 03:05 AM
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Re: Underestimate the AI: Reap the consequences.
i've never seen an AI pretender cast more than 5 spells and then go on to attack. If the unit were berserk, of course that could happen, but otherwise no.
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August 3rd, 2004, 03:33 AM
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Re: Underestimate the AI: Reap the consequences.
" Accursing developers of malicious intend to secretly screw the player by forcing him to use "bad" spell-selecting algoritm, while strategic AI got to use the differnt "uber" spell selecting algoritm is very... errr... strange."
ROFL well, never underestimate the mind of a programmer lol.. maybe the devs got tired of hearing all you veterans kicking the snot out of the AI (which I'm sure they worked very hard on) so they decided to curse all of you (or maybe just Norfleet) with bad algorythms, meanwhile all the newbies got copies of the game with the same combat algorythms as the AI. 
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August 3rd, 2004, 03:36 AM
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Re: Underestimate the AI: Reap the consequences.
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Originally posted by archaeolept:
i've never seen an AI pretender cast more than 5 spells and then go on to attack. If the unit were berserk, of course that could happen, but otherwise no.
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Yeap. It never happens AFAICT.
[ August 03, 2004, 02:57: Message edited by: Stormbinder ]
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August 3rd, 2004, 03:54 AM
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Re: Underestimate the AI: Reap the consequences.
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Originally posted by Alexi:
" Accursing developers of malicious intend to secretly screw the player by forcing him to use "bad" spell-selecting algoritm, while strategic AI got to use the differnt "uber" spell selecting algoritm is very... errr... strange."
ROFL well, never underestimate the mind of a programmer lol.. maybe the devs got tired of hearing all you veterans kicking the snot out of the AI (which I'm sure they worked very hard on) so they decided to curse all of you (or maybe just Norfleet) with bad algorythms, meanwhile all the newbies got copies of the game with the same combat algorythms as the AI.
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LOL. Probably just Norfleet. After he publicly accursed devs of installing spyware on his computer few patches ago, maybe they have decided to throw him another bone, to keep him happy. 
[ August 03, 2004, 02:56: Message edited by: Stormbinder ]
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