spamming castle all over feasible?

[Boron]

yeah if you have a 30+ admin castle :
only castle important provinces , either chokepoints or special provinces with e.g. good indies you want to build

if you have mausoleum or watchtower just build them everywhere

[pohtato]

i get all your point there... Boron said that if you are having masolleum and watch tower (those cheap and fast) build them all over but for expensive and time consuming castle type built only on important places.

i plan to focus on marignon default mass Knight of the chalice and xbow man.....so i think spamming castle isn't a good tatic.

but what if i intend to go mass on cheap units...with every province having a castle, i can mass produce in every province...the extra income can also help me to maintain the upkeep.

Originally posted by tinkthank:

Don't forget, however, that you will need 450 gold per castle and someone to build it for 3 turns.

i think if we go into long term planning, the cost used to build those castles would be offset by the income per turn eventually

[ August 05, 2004, 01:24: Message edited by: pohtato ]

[Zapmeister]

Originally posted by pohtato:
i think if we go into long term planning, the cost used to build those castles would be offset by the income per turn eventually

My advice is to never think in terms of "eventually". A lot can happen between now and eventually, most notably that your opponents might notice the vulnerability caused by ploughing most of your funds into expensive castles, and hardly any into a standing army.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Zapmeister:
My advice is to never think in terms of "eventually".

You will pay the price for your lack of vision!

If you never bother to think beyond the here and now, you will die horribly anyway as you stumble around aimlessly with no sense of purpose. Plan for the future, and when it comes, the here and now takes care of itself.

[Zapmeister]

Originally posted by Norfleet:

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Originally posted by Zapmeister:
My advice is to never think in terms of "eventually".

You will pay the price for your lack of vision!

If you never bother to think beyond the here and now, you will die horribly anyway as you stumble around aimlessly with no sense of purpose. Plan for the future, and when it comes, the here and now takes care of itself.

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That's not what I meant. Plan for the future by all means, but take account of the fact that paybacks that are a long time coming may not come at all.

[Cainehill]

Originally posted by Zapmeister:

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Originally posted by pohtato:
i think if we go into long term planning, the cost used to build those castles would be offset by the income per turn eventually

My advice is to never think in terms of "eventually". A lot can happen between now and eventually, most notably that your opponents might notice the vulnerability caused by ploughing most of your funds into expensive castles, and hardly any into a standing army.

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Not to mention that if your neighbor notices you building a lot of forts, better ones than he can build, and more of them than he can afford - he's likely to think that _you_ building _his_ castles is a wonderful idea. In more than one game, I've gained most of my forts by massacring those who built them or owned them before me.

This tends to cut down the ... return on investment, for the nation that built the forts.

[Master Shake]

You just have to balance things.

In a recent MP game, Ctis was mad castling Hill Forts (!), and put just too much cash into Forts, and had no units to actually defend them. I assume he was planning on stocking them with lots of units when he was done with the building phase, but thanks to the units I had built, he never got to that point

Of course, I've seen the opposite and watched people have a single fort for a 21-province empire. I prefer to pick high income provinces to progessively castle as the game progresses. It booosts income significantly from those provinces (using standard castle), and protects the province from raiders.